denverpilot
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Where do they spin theirs? Gym? Hot tub? Haha.
Sick-out at American?
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Where do they spin theirs? Gym? Hot tub? Haha.
wabower
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Might not be a bad idea. At this point my record is better than theirs.
Art VanDelay
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Oh, I see, so you've run a lot of airlines have you ?
Herb Kelleher was a practicing lawyer when SWA was started; his successor at the airline was his order legal secretary.
Sometimes, a little new blood (or, in Wayne's case, perhaps we'd best say, "different blood"
) can serve to stimulate a better result.
denverpilot
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Lots of companies started by folks who hadn't run that kind of business before. Only thing is, they had skin in the game. It was succeed or lose their personal nest egg.
Most modern "professional executives" sign paperwork before they walk in the door saying they get paid even if they fail. And then their incentive is stock price via options, not long term health of the company.
Not sure why you'd pick on Wayne about his experience. He's not the person running AA into the ground. He may not be the answer, but he's not causing damage daily.
Most modern "professional executives" sign paperwork before they walk in the door saying they get paid even if they fail. And then their incentive is stock price via options, not long term health of the company.
Not sure why you'd pick on Wayne about his experience. He's not the person running AA into the ground. He may not be the answer, but he's not causing damage daily.
Gmaper
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To relate this to aviation, do you remember Brown's Airport that was east of U. S. 1 and slightly south of 104th street? I don't remember exactly when it turned into a housing development but that is the airport where I was the airport kid and learned to fly.
And to also keep this aviation releted....
Wow.. that was a long time ago..... Yup.... It was west of the Parrot Jungle and Red Road at about 110 st . Just off Killian Dr...I also miss the CG flying out of Dinner Key... and Chalks, the Heli's and the Goodyear blimp over on Watson Island...
. I wanna be a kid again....
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Gmaper
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And to also keep this aviation releted....
Wow.. that was a long time ago..... Yup.... It was west of the Parrot Jungle and Red Road at about 110 st . Just off Killian Dr...I also miss the CG flying out of Dinner Key... and Chalks, the Heli's and the Goodyear blimp over on Watson Island...
And back in the day at that airport, at least for my initiation when I soloed, I was carried by more guys than I could overcome and tossed into the drainage canal that paralleled the runway. None of that wimpy t-shirt cutting stuff back then. Of course I was voluntarily in that canal on several other occasions when somebody ground looped and ended up in the water. Had to take the inspection plates off to allow water to drain while the plane, usually a J-3, was pulled back up onto Tera-firma. Yup, would be nice to be a kid again -- at least sometimes. :wink2:
Great stories about Browns, the blimp base and other abandoned places... Thanks Bruce for adding to the comments on Freemans site..
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/FL/Airfields_FL_Miami_S.htm
Art VanDelay
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Actually I'm just tired of people claiming the solution is easy - when they've never even worked for an airline but by gosh they know a guy who did........
But all this talk about Miami before the Cubans took over is certainly enlightening.
We are just trying to change the topic from failed airlines to failed US cities...
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Don't even get me started on Eastern Airlines or National Airlines..
Art VanDelay
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We are just trying to change the topic from failed airlines to failed US cities...
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Don't even get me started on Eastern Airlines or National Airlines..
Boy, ain't that the truth !
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Nobody said it was easy. You would feel differently about the management changes if you attended the board meetings and interviews when they are trying to figure out how to fix it.
When the people who supposedly "know all about airlines" or whatever business is under discussion aren't getting the job done, you can safely assume the board has already discussed "how much worse can it get if we bring in somebody from the outside." If the decision to interview others has been made, they have already crossed that bridge before inviting guys like me to discuss the job.
That's not to say that all the people or practices need to be replaced, only that the company is not meeting the board's objectives and the board thinks something needs to change. But make no mistake, when the board brings somebody else into the corner office to run the show, they don't do so with the expectation that the new guy will maintain status quo.
If you're a turn-around guy, you must evaluate the likelihood that the business can be fixed. If expectations are too high, or if the industry simply can't generate the returns that are being sought no matter who's at the helm, the smartest move for the would-be CEO is a quick "thanks but no thanks" and head for the door.
When the people who supposedly "know all about airlines" or whatever business is under discussion aren't getting the job done, you can safely assume the board has already discussed "how much worse can it get if we bring in somebody from the outside." If the decision to interview others has been made, they have already crossed that bridge before inviting guys like me to discuss the job.
That's not to say that all the people or practices need to be replaced, only that the company is not meeting the board's objectives and the board thinks something needs to change. But make no mistake, when the board brings somebody else into the corner office to run the show, they don't do so with the expectation that the new guy will maintain status quo.
If you're a turn-around guy, you must evaluate the likelihood that the business can be fixed. If expectations are too high, or if the industry simply can't generate the returns that are being sought no matter who's at the helm, the smartest move for the would-be CEO is a quick "thanks but no thanks" and head for the door.
wsuffa
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Exactly.
Further, in the M&A world, one must learn to walk away regardless of how intellectually interesting the deal might be. If if doesn't make business sense or the cultures can't meld, then just walk away Renee.