Richard
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Ack...city life
What the hell is being talked about?
That's basically what I got too. Yet do we really need a Special federal regulation to say we must comply with an ATC clearance let alone an emergency request/demand?As I read it this says:
"If we declare an emergency via NOTAM, what we say goes, never mind any other regs."
That's basically what I got too. Yet do we really need a Special federal regulation to say we must comply with an ATC clearance let alone an emergency request/demand?
That's basically what I got too. Yet do we really need a Special federal regulation to say we must comply with an ATC clearance let alone an emergency request/demand?
Seemed like it worked OK last time. Is that where this question is going?Ok, back to the OP: How does "each person" become familiar with RCOP? Or should we even care since we wouldn't care until it is activiated and that would be through NOTAM or ATC?
That's basically what I got too. Yet do we really need a Special federal regulation to say we must comply with an ATC clearance let alone an emergency request/demand?
Pilot already was able to bust every FAR in the book if that's what it took to handle an emergency.
Perhaps the procedures they put together during Irene which may have clashed a bit with the ObamaTFR?
Tell ya what, there's a story behind every SFAR that points to why "YES, it needs to be there because these people died".
That is pretty much what I was thinking. Yet if that is the case then why isn't this in the Terps? And even though the SFAR makes a vague reference to "each person (as opposed to "pilot", "air crew", etc) it does mention "operator" in the context of operating an aircraft. So is ATC now an operator of an aircraft? After all, it appears this SFAR is directed to persons other than the flight crew.Not really, that's the problem, it only handles the PICs emergency on the flight he is commanding. That's why they had to put in the SFAR to cover the Controller's emergency which might not be with that flight at all.
OMG! For years I had wondered why flap settings for turbojet-powered aircraft was included in 91.126.At what point does that get out of hand, though?
Here is one that tells us what lever/switch to move, and when.
I believe it is called the "Thurman Munson f.a.r.". Look at (c).
the ntsb report
Granted, this was a knee-jerk regulation but is there no limit to what the regulatorians will impose upon us??!
OMG! Thank you, Dave. Now I can sleep at night.
The post 9/11 restrictions were based on Part 99, Security Control of Air Traffic.The provisions of the SFAR was last executed on 9-11-2001.
All aircraft were grounded. Nothing moved, and when they started to move it was airlines only, the GA IFR then finally GA VFR. Class B was "to the ground" at the outer ring, no inverted wedding cake with higher floors.
There were no discussions, it was Marshall law and dictated, no NPRM.
We had to fight to get our GA VFR flight privileges back. Current Presidential, VIP, and "stadium" TFRs were dictated on us. No opportunity to discuss. This is the new rule, live with it.
Nuff said?
c. Implement, at any airport, traffic management procedures, that may include reduction of flight operations. Reduction of flight operations will be accomplished, to the extent practical, on a pro rata basis among and between air carrier, commercial operator, and general aviation operations. Flights cancelled under this SFAR at a high density traffic airport will be considered to have been operated for purposes of part 93 of the Federal Aviation Regulations.
SUMMARY: The Administrator of the FAA has determined that, if the sequestration provisions of the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Act take effect on October 1, 1990, an emergency will exist requiring that immediate measures be taken in order to maintain air safety. All FAA employees, including air traffic controllers, may expect to be furloughed for a specified number of days within each pay period of work. If the furlough is implemented, such action will result in a reduction in the number of air traffic controllers available on the job and will significantly affect the FAA's ability to operate the Air Traffic Control (ATC) system and provide full ATC services. This Special Federal Aviation Regulation authorizes special provisions for the operation of the ATC system during the period that the emergency conditions exist in order to provide for the safe and orderly movement of air Ttraffic.