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I have noticed a few places where there appears to be no airspace restriction, controlled airspace, Prohibited, Restricted, or other notation except a rectangular (blue line)) box with the word OBJECTIONABLE displayed inside. Don't find it on the chart legend and most people I have asked also don't seem to know. Anyone with knowledge of this and an official reference which explains it ? Thanks.
 
Not much help, but heres what the FAA says about it.



What does "OBJECTIONABLE" stand for on VFR Charts?

"OBJECTIONABLE" indicates an airspace determination per FAA Joint Order 7400.2J Section 4, Airport Charting and Publication of Airport Data, issued 9 FEB 2012. When you see this indication on a chart be sure to refer to the applicable Airport/Facility Directory for more information. FAA Regional Airports Offices are responsible for airspace determinations. Address any challenges to objectionable airspace determinations to your regional airports office. Contact Information for FAA Regional Airports Offices.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/faq/index.cfm?print=go#q3d

Edit: Here's more -
http://expertaviator.com/2012/07/31/what-is-an-objectionable-airport/
 
http://aeronav.faa.gov/content/aeronav/online/pdf_files/Chart_Users_Guide_11thEd.pdf

is some help.

An airport with an objectionable airspace determination
will be shown with type “OBJECTIONABLE.” This
airport may adversely affect airspace use. FAA Airports
Offices are responsible for airspace determinations and
follow FAA Order 7400.2 for writing the determinations.
If an airport owner or chart user wishes to challenge
the determination, he or she should contact their FAA
Regional Airports Office
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How an airport adversely affects airspace use isn't clear to me. Have an example?
 
You understand that the FAA has NOTHING to say about whether you can create an airport or not. If you can fight the battle with the local land use people, all you do with the FAA is file a notice to construct and you're done with them. They'll issue a determination as to whether you think the airport is a good idea or not, but it's not binding on you. They do get to declare you objectionable if they really dislike what you did.
 
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe said:
http://aeronav.faa.gov/content/aeronav/online/pdf_files/Chart_Users_Guide_11thEd.pdf

is some help.



How an airport adversely affects airspace use isn't clear to me. Have an example?
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There's a few around here in Chicago. If you look at the TAC for the area, look at C81. There's an objectionable airport just to the NW, as the traffic patterns are not compatible with each other.

Another one is a seaplane base just northwest of 3CK. Objectionable due to heavy boat traffic & densely populated areas around the lake.
 
tmyers said:
Bovine flatulance!
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Using that definition, anywhere within about 12 miles of LNS. I've flown in there twice, and both times, I got smacked in the face with the smell of cow on descent. It was gross.
 
tmyers said:
Bovine flatulance!
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What about the chicken flatulence in NW AR? I was down there yesterday and, believe me, on a hot day, 5,000' MSL wasn't high enough! The Tyson stink is far and wide...and HIGH!
 
Methane is lighter than N2 and O2
 
Looking through that list of objectionable airports, I see quite a few that cite a pline crossing the runway. So I wondered what in the heck is a pline?

Clicking on an aerial photo and zooming in, I found a power line. Right across the middle of the runway. Amazing!

Here is one of them -- just click on the aerial photo and zoom-zoom-zoom to the middle of the runway:
http://skyvector.com/airport/II32/Raceway-Airport
 
I assume that there's some sort of insurance endorsement required to keep your coverage in effect while operating at objectionable airports
 
NoHeat said:
Looking through that list of objectionable airports, I see quite a few that cite a pline crossing the runway. So I wondered what in the heck is a pline?

Clicking on an aerial photo and zooming in, I found a power line. Right across the middle of the runway. Amazing!

Here is one of them -- just click on the aerial photo and zoom-zoom-zoom to the middle of the runway:
http://skyvector.com/airport/II32/Raceway-Airport
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Looks like that one is now a drag strip.
 
airheadpenguin said:
Why be one or the other?
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New London Airport in Forest VA (W90) operates as a drag strip one day a month. I was ferrying a plane back from having the engine overhauled and landed there and I said "You can't fool me, I work at a drag strip, this IS a drag strip." While we were there the state police came buy and asked if we were leaving soon. Seems that they wanted to set up cones on the runway and practice driving fast.

It occured to me after a few minutes that when the guys from my track talked about going ot Lynchburg for drag races, this was the actual destination. A few weeks later we decided to fly down on drag day and make a 1000' AGL pass down the runway. I could see my Dickie Gore, my boss from ODS smiling and waving up at us. What I didn't know is his brother Gary was having a fit thinking we were going to try to land there.
 
Palmpilot said:
I better get my eyes checked again, because I'm having trouble finding the airports that it claims Page Regional's pattern conflicts with. :dunno:
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Looks like someone in that ADO has a burr up his ass about something. More objectionable airports for silly reasons.
 
timwinters said:
What about the chicken flatulence in NW AR? I was down there yesterday and, believe me, on a hot day, 5,000' MSL wasn't high enough! The Tyson stink is far and wide...and HIGH!
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Oh thats like the approach to Harris Ranch 3O8....really doesnt help right before you order a big steak.
 
OK and and which ****ing sectional will I find an example of the blue box objectionable airport?
 
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