resuming training - from 10 years ago

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  1. supernovae

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    Ten years ago I started my part 141 training at KLNS on Cessna 152s. Today I live in Austin and looking at resuming part 141 training at Georgetown municipal airport on tomahawks.

    Any advice for getting re-started and getting most bang for buck? It was slightly heartbreaking to find my stack of receipts showing my dual + wet time costing less than my wet time today.. punch myself for not finishing it back then but I had kids, job changes and financial hardships and my training outfit also shut its doors for the same (and I think someone did a gear up landing and put the nail on the insurance coffin)

    I've maintained AOPA membership, have my jepesson ground school courseware and all of my log books. I did solo in a 152 and had my medical..

    I've contacted the school to see what they say, but just wanted to ping this community and see what others have done and any other advice they may have.

    If it is still similar to earlier training I should get the tamahawk manual, get new far aim 2013 and push to get my medical and my written test out of the way right? Should I re-do groundschoool or is self study with lots of flying ok or will most part 141 schools want me to complete their ground school before they can legally sign off?

    Right now just interested in private pilot.. BUT a part of me is sort of tossing around sport pilot for near term and private later.. but we shall see.

    Thanks!
     
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    Welcome to the forum, I am also pretty new to flying but it sounds like you've done alot already! Maybe paying for the 141 way to go may not be the most beneficial for you. Don't know how many hours you have, but it sounds like a you did a decent amount to where you already solo'ed and probably studied a bunch already. If I were you I'd find a local school or club and maybe show them what you have already. And just study by yourself and just get back into flying and it will be less money than the 141 school and you can get right into it. I'm sure others may agree.
     
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    I'm sure in Austin there are a few schools and CFI's in the area..
     
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    One assumes you have financial reasons for doing it under Part 141. Otherwise, in this situation, going Part 61 may be a better choice as it will allow them more flexibility to structure your training based on what you do and do not remember.

    Start here.

    Good idea, as a 141 program doesn't have a lot of flexibility in the materials to be used.

    Under Part 141, you have to use their ground school (unless you completed another 141 ground school and the test within the preceding 24 months) and their materials. Best bet other than looking over that AOPA material linked above is to sit back and wait to hear from the school.
     
  5. supernovae

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    Is there a good place to research/find instructors? Almost everything I can find on the web is full blown part 141 and I'm really not needing it for airline training or anything.. I used to pay 50/hr for wet 152 and 30 for cfi 10 years ago.. now I'm looking at 105 wet traumahawk + 40 cfi at least it seems. Any. Austin / Georgetown / north Austin flying clubs/schools/retirees I can take advantage of? (previous training was part 141 and airline may have been glimmer of a thought back then hehe)
     
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    The fact that a school has a 141 certificate does not mean you have to train under their 141 program. You can still do it under Part 61 as long as you aren't using any funding which requires that you train under 141. That said, you'll still probably (but not necessarily) train using a more structured approach at that school even if you do it under 61.
     
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    Just do it. Don't be the 80% that start PP training and never get their certificate. You have friends that will help and support you here at POA.
     
  8. GigEm98

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    Which school are you talking to at Georgetown? Pilot's Choice Aviation is at Georgetown, and I believe they are a part 61, or will do training under part 61.

    I have lived in Georgetown most of my life, and Pilot's Choice Aviation has been there as long as I can remember. (Not sure if it has been the same owners or not, but the business has been around a long time)

    There are one or two other schools, but I can not think of their names at the moment.
     
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    Nobody has said it yet, but I think your 10 year old ground school materials should be refreshed as well. There have been plenty of changes, both regulatory and technological, over the past 10 years, that a fresh set of DVDs is probably in order. The four forces are still the four forces, but there's enough stuff that has changed that current study materials make sense.

    I've probably got the same Jeppsen book you do, from my first foray into this hobby, but I've budgeted for new ground school materials as well.
     
  10. DavidWhite

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    I'm friends with the person who owns the flight school that has the tomahawks at GTU, all of the airplanes are nice and well maintained. If you go inside the hangar you will see a B25. Although IIRC the warriors aren't that much more an hour, and are much more comfortable to fly. She even has some Archers and 172s.
     
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    Pilots Choice is the only one with Tomahawks
     
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    Pilots choice is part 141 as I recall... That's where I did my CFi with Beth.
     
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    Pilots Choice is the school i'm looking at. i'll definitely have to check out the B25 and drool :) You're right, the warrior for a few bucks more may better fit the flying I dream/hope to do after training.

    On a serious note, where do you guys see GA going? I realize that flying is all about what I make of it but everything I read and hear about it seems to be leading more and more to sport pilot flying. I of course realize that PPL can fly sport but the more I think about it, the more sport makes sense.

    I have dreams of flying myself and my family around in a fun four seat aircraft but unless I fly for business, owning an aircraft of that capability isn't really the most cost effective use of my hard earned cash when I could just jet-set with the family and sleep on the way to far flung destinations.

    Then again, my wife always complains I research the hell out of everything and just need "shut up and do it" :)
     
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    Owning an airplane doesn't make sense. Atleast not financially any ways - but knowing you have an airplane sitting and waiting for you to fly somewhere is priceless - you also know how it's maintained.
     
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    General aviation, wether chartered jets or a rental Cessna, is rarely, if ever the most cost effective use of your hard earned cash. Pilots pilot bug smashers because they want to. There is a sweet spot where, time-wise, GA beats driving or comercial aviation as well, but too short of a trip and driving will be quicker; too long and the speed of a 777 becomes the defining factor.

    We fly because its the most fun you can have for $150 an hour. :wink2:
     
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    This is some GOOD advice!

    I was away from flying for 20 years when I started back up almost two years ago. I am in the boonies and couldn't find a rent plane or instructor. The encouragement I got here helped me to move through the whole process and got my PPL a little over a year ago.

    Without determination and support it will be more difficult and less likely to happen. Set your mind on the goal and work through it. Get out your logbook and go find an independent instructor at a small field of which there are many in your area.

    Keep your eye on the ball and don't even CONSIDER quitting until your checkride. THEN you won't want to quit.

    Keep us posted on your progress and post your problems here. It is amazing how much useful flight instruction you can get by posting a question or problem and reading the answers.