Really big motor yachts... something Ted might think about

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I was randomly searching the Youtube for Malaysian lovelies likely to cause anomalies up to and including thread deletion, when I stumbled on to the video above. A 100 foot yacht. You could reach Malaysia with that yacht no?

No.

One hundred feet. Over two hundred thousand pounds. It's billed as ocean going. You hire a professional crew, and it's at least four including the captain. It carries 4,000 gallons of diesel. And has a best cruise range of....

480 NM.

What? You can't cross the Atlantic like that. You can't cross the Pacific like that. You damn sure can't reach Malaysia.

I mean... why? Just cause? What are the actual missions of these boats? Sit around the dock and look pretty? I suppose if you can afford the boat you can afford the gas, I get that, but this thing? A small plastic destroyer that can maybe make it from San Diego to San Francisco in one leg?

I never really got it, but after looking at the video and the specs, I certainly don't get it.
 
Sounds like the Cirrus of the Seas.

Sac, I can only guess how you stumbled upon this during your search, being that it was so specific. :)
 
I love watching videos of motor yachts. I want nothing to do with actually owning one. There’s a couple from Philly who are documenting their new ownership of a Hatteras 58 that they’re planning to live on part-time eventually, and it looks really nice for an older boat. But not the bills. Nope. Nope. Nope.
 
denverpilot said:
I love watching videos of motor yachts. I want nothing to do with actually owning one. There’s a couple from Philly who are documenting their new ownership of a Hatteras 58 that they’re planning to live on part-time eventually, and it looks really nice for an older boat. But not the bills. Nope. Nope. Nope.
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Well, right, exactly, as I love watching videos of Thai hookers, but I wouldn't actually want to own one either.

But to me motor yachts are soft core marine porn. Container and tanker ships with massive two stroke Sulzer and MAN engines are hard core.
 
GeorgeC said:
I was up for some pattern work this summer and this slick eurocopter landed behind me. A search revealed that it's based here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrant_Curiosity
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Now I'm wondering if the video I posted above does not have the range stated with a decimal point off. They seem pretty adamant that the ranges are within 400 NM at various speeds.
 
denverpilot said:
I love watching videos of motor yachts. I want nothing to do with actually owning one. There’s a couple from Philly who are documenting their new ownership of a Hatteras 58 that they’re planning to live on part-time eventually, and it looks really nice for an older boat. But not the bills. Nope. Nope. Nope.
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I like boats. I do. I could see doing that. But I think my boat would have to be a sailboat. Now, MX on a large sailboat isn't that much less than for a motorboat but at least you escape the fuel costs mostly.
 
Sac Arrow said:

I was randomly searching the Youtube for Malaysian lovelies likely to cause anomalies up to and including thread deletion, when I stumbled on to the video above. A 100 foot yacht. You could reach Malaysia with that yacht no?

No.

One hundred feet. Over two hundred thousand pounds. It's billed as ocean going. You hire a professional crew, and it's at least four including the captain. It carries 4,000 gallons of diesel. And has a best cruise range of....

480 NM.

What? You can't cross the Atlantic like that. You can't cross the Pacific like that. You damn sure can't reach Malaysia.

I mean... why? Just cause? What are the actual missions of these boats? Sit around the dock and look pretty? I suppose if you can afford the boat you can afford the gas, I get that, but this thing? A small plastic destroyer that can maybe make it from San Diego to San Francisco in one leg?

I never really got it, but after looking at the video and the specs, I certainly don't get it.
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The people who would buy that don't have the time or desire to make a long ocean voyage anyway.
 
Sac Arrow said:
like boats. I do. I could see doing that. But I think my boat would have to be a sailboat.
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+1 sailboats all the way. Bob Perry designs some beautiful boats, I've often lusted after one of his designs.. then again, if I even become a super villain then this would be the boat for me

There are some proper ocean crossing luxury motoryachts out there, like this one from Nordhavn. The 120 has a range of 6,500 nautical miles... it ought to with 18,000 gallons of diesel onboard.. because spending $45K to fill up your tank is perfectly reasonable. And I thought $100/hr in gas for the SR22T was a lot!
 
GeorgeC said:
I was up for some pattern work this summer and this slick eurocopter landed behind me. A search revealed that it's based here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrant_Curiosity
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I hope the one in the OP is a typo. This yacht has a range of 5500nm at 17 knots, but I didn't see fuel capacity. It also has a crew of 26, and can carry 14 passengers. And a tender. And a helicopter. Both garaged inside . . . .
 
Out on the West Coast we have a lot less opportunity for yacht cruising than exists the East Coast, especially down in Florida and to and through the Caribbean. There are full blown yacht in destinations. Atlantis has a whole yacht harbor that you can dock, enjoy the entire resort and get full hotel and resort services right to your boat. It is pretty slick.

Concerned about the hurricanes?...well there is a whole small yacht transportation industry that they will float you boat onto a larger sea going vessel and ship your yacht to be waiting for you anywhere in Europe and the Mediterranean then back after hurricane season.

While there is a stupid luxury 1% mega yachts, there is a massive yacht culture where you can be an owner/operator not needing a crew in the 60-100' range.

I would do that in a heartbeat biu just like jets, they are not cheap to operate. General rule of thumb is 10% of boat purchase price in annual operation costs.
 
I have been attempting to learn sailing, mostly by observation. But I think I will take a course this spring.

Is there a SOA? (Sailboats of America)
 
Shawn said:
Yes.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/

I have had A Hobie Cat, Laser, Sunfish, Cal25 and spent more time in the sailing program at college then I did actual classes. Discovered that I prefer vessels with motors though...
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I thought about learning to sail, after having learned to fly, while I was in college. Then I moved inland. But now that I'm back by the water, it is convenient. Funny about the motors. The other activity I might try is flying gliders. But they are further away.
 
I’d love to do the Great Loop in a 40-50’ Motor Yacht. It’d take 3-4 months to do it right and enjoy it, but it’d be a hell of a trip.


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This is the best boat I can afford....

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Sac Arrow said:

I was randomly searching the Youtube for Malaysian lovelies likely to cause anomalies up to and including thread deletion, when I stumbled on to the video above. A 100 foot yacht. You could reach Malaysia with that yacht no?

No.

One hundred feet. Over two hundred thousand pounds. It's billed as ocean going. You hire a professional crew, and it's at least four including the captain. It carries 4,000 gallons of diesel. And has a best cruise range of....

480 NM.

What? You can't cross the Atlantic like that. You can't cross the Pacific like that. You damn sure can't reach Malaysia.

I mean... why? Just cause? What are the actual missions of these boats? Sit around the dock and look pretty? I suppose if you can afford the boat you can afford the gas, I get that, but this thing? A small plastic destroyer that can maybe make it from San Diego to San Francisco in one leg?

I never really got it, but after looking at the video and the specs, I certainly don't get it.
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Article on this site says range 3100nm

http://www.yachtworld.com/boat-content/2014/12/ocean-alexander-100-motoryacht/
 
Sac Arrow said:
Well, right, exactly, as I love watching videos of Thai hookers, but I wouldn't actually want to own one either.

But to me motor yachts are soft core marine porn. Container and tanker ships with massive two stroke Sulzer and MAN engines are hard core.
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Since the internet says most Thai hookers are dudes, it’s not surprising that you find a MAN engine to be hard core porn. Just sayin’, nawmean? :D
 
Everskyward said:
I thought about learning to sail, after having learned to fly, while I was in college. Then I moved inland. But now that I'm back by the water, it is convenient. Funny about the motors. The other activity I might try is flying gliders. But they are further away.
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I'd start here. https://asa.com/ Most sailboat rental outfits want you to at least have the ASA 101 under your belt before they rent to you. I've been sailing off and on for the last 25 years, and owned a 30' sailboat in CA for about 6.
 
sferguson524 said:
I'd start here. https://asa.com/ Most sailboat rental outfits want you to at least have the ASA 101 under your belt before they rent to you.
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I’ve sailed and owned on and off for years, and a number of years back decided to go get my bareboat cert. Went to a school and lived on a Beneteau 39 for a week, knocked out 101 thru 105 that week. Since I’ve chartered monohulls as large at 51’ and cats up to 44’, good times!

There are lots of nice places to charter a sailboat and have a fantastic vacation!
 
SoonerAviator said:
I’d love to do the Great Loop in a 40-50’ Motor Yacht. It’d take 3-4 months to do it right and enjoy it, but it’d be a hell of a trip.
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We want to do that as well someday.
 
Sac, here’s a chart from a Fleming 55 trawler yacht, speed vs range:

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Sac Arrow said:
What are the actual missions of these boats? Sit around the dock and look pretty? I suppose if you can afford the boat you can afford the gas, I get that, but this thing? A small plastic destroyer that can maybe make it from San Diego to San Francisco in one leg?

I never really got it, but after looking at the video and the specs, I certainly don't get it.
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Gotta be some kind of tax dodge, and/or some way for the "charter" companies to find a sap to buy a megayacht that they can rent out for big dollars without expending capital.
 
SoonerAviator said:
I’d love to do the Great Loop in a 40-50’ Motor Yacht. It’d take 3-4 months to do it right and enjoy it, but it’d be a hell of a trip.


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Never heard of that, sounds cool! Maybe add this to my bucket list.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
We want to do that as well someday.
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I'm not the kind of person who would want to own a boat that required a hired crew no matter how much wealth I had (wouldn't have live-in maids/butlers, either). So a 40-50' motor yacht like a Carver 506/530 or SeaRay Sedan Bridge is easily operated by a single-man crew, although having a wife/kid to toss lines and throw out fenders is always helpful. The newer joystick control docking from Merc and Volvo makes handling in tight quarters so simple a child could do it. The thing is, I don't know what I'd do with a boat that big after I finished the Great Loop. There are plenty of them in that size range on a few Oklahoma lakes (Grand Lake/Texoma) but I can't see having something that large on an inland lake (Great Lakes excluded), lol.
 
Owner of a local company has a 130' yacht. Google says it has a 2500nm range.

He also has a king air, so he doesn't have to ride on board for all 2500nm. Just meets it when it gets there.
 
Bill Jennings said:
Sac, here’s a chart from a Fleming 55 trawler yacht, speed vs range:

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That seems more realistic, we had a 60 Hatteras Convertible, so not a displacement type yacht at all, but at 30 knots it sucked fuel like it was dumping over board!! About 100 GPH, at 26 knots it was closer to 75 GPH and at 8-10 knots it was in the 10-15 GPH range. So, we could have taken it from Destin to Cancun, I know a lot of people that do, but we never did! More so than airplanes, speed has a major impact on distance.
 
I'm no stranger to sailboats. I learned to sail at an early age and I grew up around boats. We had a Hobie Cat in my high school years but I've sailed lots of Sunfish, Lasers, etc... and crewed on larger sailboats. I took up windsurfing a few years ago for a short period of time. Never advanced to the short board.
 
sferguson524 said:
I'd start here. https://asa.com/ Most sailboat rental outfits want you to at least have the ASA 101 under your belt before they rent to you. I've been sailing off and on for the last 25 years, and owned a 30' sailboat in CA for about 6.
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Thanks. I've looked at asa.com. There are plenty of schools around here (San Francisco Bay Area). I'd like to learn and crew, but not sure I'm interesting in renting, since sailing seems like a group activity, and none of my current friends and relatives seem to be interested at all. Sorta like flying. I'm finding my own sailing friends.
 
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