Ready in sequence

RichNY said:
At KFRG in NY, if you call to say "ready in sequence" the tower will respond with "call us when you're #1".
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That's because the NY tower guys cannot remember the N numbers of the TWO planes in line...:goofy::goofy:.......:D
 
I say it occasionally at busier airports where I anticipate a wait for my take off clearance. A couple points, from the AIM:

4-3-14. Communications

a. Unless otherwise advised by the tower, remain on that frequency during taxiing and runup, then change to local control frequency when ready to request takeoff clearance.

Note- Pilots are encouraged to monitor the local tower frequency as soon as practical consistent with other ATC requirements.

b. The tower controller will consider that pilots of turbine-powered aircraft are ready for takeoff when they reach the runway or warm-up block unless advised otherwise.
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So in a line up of me and a bunch of turbines, the controller knows they're ready, but needs to hear from me that I'm ready. Since I may be #10 in line, I add "in sequence" to set the expectation that I'm not presuming I'm number one even though I'm the only one declaring I'm "ready for takeoff". This is especially true if I'm set up for an intersection take off, or multiple taxiways leading to the departure end, where Tower alternates take off clearances to planes waiting on both sides of the runway (HPN is a good example of that).

flyingron said:
More than conveying information to the tower, it keeps the guys who think they're ahead of you in line from getting ****ed off for thinking you're trying to jump the line.
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...and that too.
 
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denverpilot said:
Why do I give a flying crap what they think? If they're too stupid to understand the Tower calls the sequence, that's really none of my problem. Idiots are about 20% of any population by the bell curve. Idiots think a lot of things that aren't true.
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I suspect that even people in the middle of the bell curve think idiotic things 20% of the time. :D
 
RichNY said:
At KFRG in NY, if you call to say "ready in sequence" the tower will respond with "call us when you're #1".
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N801BH said:
That's because the NY tower guys cannot remember the N numbers of the TWO planes in line...:goofy::goofy:.......:D
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I've only been into KFRG twice but I got the sense that they are trying to be busier and more expedient than they need to be... perhaps so they can hassle the students or something. Maybe it's just a Longiland accent.

"Call us when you're #1" is a stupid thing to say when you routinely feed departures from 3 different taxiways on your main runway. Stupid.
 
Bill Watson said:
I've only been into KFRG twice but I got the sense that they are trying to be busier and more expedient than they need to be... perhaps so they can hassle the students or something. Maybe it's just a Longiland accent.



"Call us when you're #1" is a stupid thing to say when you routinely feed departures from 3 different taxiways on your main runway. Stupid.
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"I'm always number one, bay-bee!" seems like the appropriate response. Haha.
 
Say you have 12 planes waiting to depart on rwy 32. 6 on Delta and 6 on Alpha, lined up nose to tail. The tower can only release the first plane in the line for takeoff. You can't get out of the line, there's no room. Why would the tower want to know if you're "ready to go in sequence" when you're number 4 in line. Maybe you like the way it sounds to you but it is of no value to the tower.
Plus, if you forget to call, the tower will ask "who's #1 at Delta?"
 
Bill Watson said:
"Call us when you're #1" is a stupid thing to say when you routinely feed departures from 3 different taxiways on your main runway. Stupid.
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I waited to call until I was #1 once (forget what airport but it was a GA reliever) and had people from behind taxi around me for takeoff because I had not called to get in sequence. But there are other airports who don't want you to call until you are #1, and still others who don't want you to call at all. So there is not any one-size-fits-all solution.
 
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Originally Posted by flyingron
More than conveying information to the tower, it keeps the guys who think they're ahead of you in line from getting ****ed off for thinking you're trying to jump the line.



denverpilot said:
Why do I give a flying crap what they think? If they're too stupid to understand the Tower calls the sequence, that's really none of my problem. Idiots are about 20% of any population by the bell curve. Idiots think a lot of things that aren't true.

We operate 2 Gulfstream 550's and everyone in the Flight Dept says it. It doesn't matter if it's a C-152 ahead of us on the other side of the runway. With the tone of your text, we are saying it for people like you and your mind set.
I bet your the one whispering in his headset " Don't think your takeing off before me mofo"

A little respect for a fellow aviator goes a long way with me.

Come on 20%ers. I'm buying the beer
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Pghsteel said:
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Originally Posted by flyingron

More than conveying information to the tower, it keeps the guys who think they're ahead of you in line from getting ****ed off for thinking you're trying to jump the line.







denverpilot said:
Why do I give a flying crap what they think? If they're too stupid to understand the Tower calls the sequence, that's really none of my problem. Idiots are about 20% of any population by the bell curve. Idiots think a lot of things that aren't true.



We operate 2 Gulfstream 550's and everyone in the Flight Dept says it. It doesn't matter if it's a C-152 ahead of us on the other side of the runway. With the tone of your text, we are saying it for people like you and your mind set.

I bet your the one whispering in his headset " Don't think your takeing off before me mofo"



A little respect for a fellow aviator goes a long way with me.



Come on 20%ers. I'm buying the beer
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Horsepucky. I didn't say I'd be rude. You certainly are though.

I said I do NOT CARE what you in your cockpit (no matter the size of your aircraft) THINK I'm doing.

Very big difference. Nice that YOU turned it into a little vs big thing however. Shows more where YOU are in your head than I.

DO NOT CARE. Read the damn words literally. Read them again. Here's examples of usage:

As in, none of my business.

As in, not even interested in knowing or speculation as to whether or not you screwed your head on straight to fly airplanes today.

As in, I'm talking to the tower. I'm not talking to you.

As in, I have an airplane to fly here and have plenty to do without wondering about your mental state or emotional problems.

As in, I fully respect you and know you'll figure out how to fly your airplane just fine.

As, in who gives a flying **** what you do with your Gulfstream? It's your Gulfstream.

LOL. Get it yet?

No one has yet said the obvious one...

"79M is ready to go behind the Piper."

Which works just fine too, and actually conveys useful information beyond "in sequence".

Duh.

This place can turn anything into stupidity. If you can't handle ...

Who you're calling, who you are, where you are, and what you want...

And think that you need to attend to the emotional needs of every other doofus on the ramp...

You're probably not mentally preparing to go flying.

It's not a damn high school dance floor. Sheesh. Do you need me to change your diaper too?

Go fly your airplane and don't get a kink in your weenie if you think someone got to go flying 60 seconds before you did.

If you've got emotional neeeeeeeeeds, ask the Tower if they have daycare. Or whatever. Again, none of my business. DON'T CARE.
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denverpilot said:
Pghsteel said:
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Originally Posted by flyingron

More than conveying information to the tower, it keeps the guys who think they're ahead of you in line from getting ****ed off for thinking you're trying to jump the line.










Horsepucky. I didn't say I'd be rude. You certainly are though.

I said I do NOT CARE what you in your cockpit (no matter the size of your aircraft) THINK I'm doing.

Very big difference. Nice that YOU turned it into a little vs big thing however. Shows more where YOU are in your head than I.

DO NOT CARE. Read the damn words literally. Read them again. Here's examples of usage:

As in, none of my business.

As in, not even interested in knowing or speculation as to whether or not you screwed your head on straight to fly airplanes today.

As in, I'm talking to the tower. I'm not talking to you.

As in, I have an airplane to fly here and have plenty to do without wondering about your mental state or emotional problems.

As in, I fully respect you and know you'll figure out how to fly your airplane just fine.

As, in who gives a flying **** what you do with your Gulfstream? It's your Gulfstream.

LOL. Get it yet?

No one has yet said the obvious one...

"79M is ready to go behind the Piper."

Which works just fine too, and actually conveys useful information beyond "in sequence".

Duh.

This place can turn anything into stupidity. If you can't handle ...

Who you're calling, who you are, where you are, and what you want...

And think that you need to attend to the emotional needs of every other doofus on the ramp...

You're probably not mentally preparing to go flying.

It's not a damn high school dance floor. Sheesh. Do you need me to change your diaper too?

Go fly your airplane and don't get a kink in your weenie if you think someone got to go flying 60 seconds before you did.

If you've got emotional neeeeeeeeeds, ask the Tower if they have daycare. Or whatever. Again, none of my business. DON'T CARE.
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WOW........ Nate is on a roll... And they had it coming too....:yes:
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The three posts above me are so messed up, I don't know who said what and who is arguing with who. But, it sure did seem like one guy had a good thing going.
 
N801BH said:
denverpilot said:
WOW........ Nate is on a roll... And they had it coming too....:yes:
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I just get annoyed that people read stuff into what I say. I'm pretty straightforward. If I say I "don't care" I really don't care.

I don't "dislike you".

Or "think poorly of the pilot in the other plane".

I don't "want to hurt your feelings".

I said "don't care" and I really really meant it.

The guy beside me could say "in sequence", I DON'T care about that either.

I certainly wouldn't take it as some silly sign of courtesy that he's staying behind me. Tower can put him out ahead of me if they want. That's THEIR job.

Pilots just make up this crap, I swear.

It's my job to tell the Tower...

Who I'm calling, Who I am, Where I am, and What I want.

4 Ws. Works for damn near any aviation radio transmission where a request is the goal.

That's it. They figure it out from there. They usually do it really really well. That's what they do. Sequence traffic.
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What's with all the weird messed up quoting? Is it contagious? :lol:
 
narchee said:
What's with all the weird messed up quoting? Is it contagious? :lol:
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Once a quote box gets messed up, it messes up the quoting in any message that quotes it, which perpetuates the problem unless or until someone manually corrects it.
 
Palmpilot said:
Once a quote box gets messed up, it messes up the quoting in any message that quotes it, which perpetuates the problem unless or until someone manually corrects it.
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Which I didn't feel like doing. It's more fun to leave the mess the bad quoter made. Ha.
 
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