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Cnthinkoname

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Hey Guys,

I'm new to posting on the site, but far from new in terms of reading the site. Last Sunday I had a checkride schedule for 10:00am. I got out to the airport at 8:30 to make the flight out to the examiner. The flight school forgot to dispatch the plane, so my instructor had to make a trip over to get me on my way. I finally left RDU around 9:20 and was at BUY 5 minutes early...phew. We got started on the oral, here is what I was asked (might have forgotten a few):

Misc
• Notams, types and example of each.
• Night currency, what type of landing, is both a t/o and landing required.
• 3 definitions of night.
• How often do you need a flight review
• When would the annual expire.
• Spin recovery
• A.R.O.W
• What does a pilot need to carry, what in a drivers license is required (thought for a while… picture)

Systems
• How much oil (20w-50 brownie points)
• What happens if oil runs low
• Define high performance and complex. (I called it a rating instead of endorsement, she said I sound like a redneck saying that and pilot's license not pilot certificate haha)
• Compass deviation
• MEL
• Magnetos
• What does the master switch do
• Engine fire while starting, and what if it doesn't start.
• What would happen if pitot and drain tube block
• What would happen if the drain blocked
• ADs, example, regulatory or not, types.
• When would you use the aux. fuel pump
• Transponder inspection frequency.
• Vx, Vy, Va, Vso, Vs, Vfe (Just speeds, didn't ask what they were)
• What do elevators, rudders, and ailerons do.

Aeromedical
• What class medical is required, when will my medical expire, what is the cutoff age, how long will a 40 year olds last.
• Alcohol
• Hypoxia, symptoms and corrective action
• Hyperventilation, symptoms and corrective action
• Hypoxia vs Carbon monoxide poisoning
• How would we get CO
• Scuba diving (started explaining the regs, she said she didn't need them)

Weather
• High v Low pressure
• High v Low temperature
• Airmets (didn't ask for types), examples
• Sigmets, examples
• Convective Sigmets, examples
• Same temp/dew point (Had to think. I said rain and dew, then eventually fog, DUH)
• Why is icing bad
• 3 things for a thunderstorm
• 4 things that affect density altitude

Sectional
• Open Circle Airports (Also F and H inside them)
• MOA, Restricted, Alert Area, Wilderness Area
• Runway lengths by enclosed in circle or not
• FSS (Names, Frequencies), Runway Lengths, Lighting (*L), Fuel, RP, HIWAS, Field elevation, CT frequency, star by CT frequency.
• Mode C Veil
• Federal Airways (Box w Length, What intersecting arrows mean), Military training routes.
• Charlotte area map
• Why would a beacon have to be on during the day (What visibility and ceiling, she had to hint a little)
• Isogonic lines
• TFR (and example)

Airspace
• Where do you need a transponder (She had to ask me about one below a shelf and above an airport)
• Class G requirements, Class E requirements
• Entering B v C
• Dashed magenta (Class E to sfc.)
• How high does class E go
• How high does class G go
• How would you avoid collisions at a Class B? Class E? (I was a little confused and said Class B: Listen to the radio, taxiway diagram, do not cross thresholds unless cleared. Class E: Listen to the radio, know where people are in the pattern. She said good, so I guess that's what she wanted)

Flight Planning
• CG
• Pressure altitude, density altitude and how to find each. Asked about that pressure altitude equation 29.92-current *1000 + field elevation.
• Performance chart calculations
• Without looking, would a takeoff or landing need more distance.
• Day/Night Fuel Reserves
• Forward vs Aft CG. How do they affect speed, stalls speed, and stability.

We then went out to do the flight portion. Preflighted the plane, all looked good. We went over to the run up area, during run up the left brake pedal went to the floor and the plane started slightly turning right. We went back and I got a discontinuance. The flight school sent out another plane to get me and another instructor to get the plane.

Yesterday was take 2. I got out of class and headed straight over to the airport. I got there right at one and was ready to get out to the plane when they inform me of a new security protocol that requires an instructor to escort you to the aircraft and watch you until start up. This put me 20 minutes behind, so I let the examiner know I'll be a little late.

I get to BUY, she checks my logbook, medical, and license and we're off. A short field takeoff was first, easy enough. Upon climb out she notices my transponder was still set to the code I was given to by Raleigh Departure (doh). Being unfamiliar with the area, I slightly pass my first checkpoint before noticing, the second I was right on. We then do a diversion and are on to maneuvers.

The first maneuver was slow flight, it was a pretty bumpy day so that had me a little nervous. She asked me to fly at 50 knots, being used to 40 knots and being able to judge speed by the pitch of the stall horn, this was harder than anticipated. Stalls came next followed by steep turns, simulated instruments, and unusual attitudes, which all went very well. We then did a simulated engine out, I did a 360 which got me a perfect approach for the field. We went back up and did a turn around a point, and then headed back to BUY for the landings.

The first landing was to be a soft field. I came in a little too fast and had a little bounce, the worst landing I have had since solo. I though surely I failed when she had me do a soft field takeoff. Easy enough, another lap in the pattern and it was time for a short field landing. I was still a little fast and had a little bounce but hit my spot. 2nd worst landing since solo. Once again I was worried. We taxied back and she told me I passed!

We go inside and get the paperwork done. She wanted to review my errors with me, from both the oral and flight portions. We discussed FDC notams, the ultralight airpark symbol on the chart, and a forward CG. She then told me all my maneuvers were great, especially the engine out and unusual attitudes. She asked me why my landings were not so good, and we discussed them. She also told me that the transponder was a huge mistake, and had I left it on Greensboro would have called to talk to me. We chatted a little about instrument training and I was on my way.

Funny enough, my landing at RDU was the best I have ever had. Right on the numbers, perfect approach and airspeed, great touchdown. My "escort" from the flight school said something to the effect of man, if your landings were that good you surely passed. I told him I passed, but my landings were no where near that good. :mad2:

Sorry for the long post :D.
 
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Congratulations! And welcome to the PoA! (posting at least :))
 
Congrats!! I hope to be where you are soon.

Enjoy the ride! When I started I had the mentality of getting it done quickly. I soon realized that wasn't going to happen. I had a flight, then worked for 2 weeks, and the cycle continued. I finished with just under 80 hours. Flying out of a class C requires a flight to and from a smaller airport to do maneuvers.

The way I did it certainly wasn't efficient, but I had a lot of fun and many great experiences during training.
 
Unfortunately, I know what you mean. I started flight training awhile back and had to take a two year hiatus, do to school, finances, and life in general. I just started back up with hopefully no interruptions. Now, with 45 hours I'm about to solo (again) tomorrow. Let me just say, you forget a lot in two years...
 
Congratulations!!

And many thanks for the detailed writeup; I found it very useful and now I'm becoming aware that with so much material the ground "test" can take on different topics.

Great job!
 
Great writeup. Thanks - and congratulations!
 
Nice job passing the check ride and I'm impressed with the amount you remember from the oral part. I can still remember the flight portion of my ride, almost 8 months ago, but even right after the oral I had no chance of remembering any of it.

Enjoy the new privileges you have and take the responsibility seriously.
 
Congratulations!

And I'm always way harder on my landings (pun intended) than anyone else is =)
 
Unfortunately, I know what you mean. I started flight training awhile back and had to take a two year hiatus, do to school, finances, and life in general. I just started back up with hopefully no interruptions. Now, with 45 hours I'm about to solo (again) tomorrow. Let me just say, you forget a lot in two years...
I took many 3 month breaks, even that allows you to forget a lot. I started in high school, and finished just as college started, so that was good timing. How'd the solo go?

Congrats. Go work on those landings. ;)
Oh I will, first flight with a passenger will be Friday!

Congrats, I know the exictement, just passed mine 22 days ago. But whose counting.
Haha, I know the feeling, It's still surreal!

Nice job passing the check ride and I'm impressed with the amount you remember from the oral part. I can still remember the flight portion of my ride, almost 8 months ago, but even right after the oral I had no chance of remembering any of it.

Enjoy the new privileges you have and take the responsibility seriously.
My instructor was also surprised, I don't know why but she asked pretty much what I expected which was nice.


Congratulations!

And I'm always way harder on my landings (pun intended) than anyone else is =)
I haven't flown anyone else yet, hopefully that will be the case :D.
 
Oh I will, first flight with a passenger will be Friday!.

Best advice for first pax flights I wish someone had told me many moons ago...

Go around, if it's ugly. :)

I pushed too many landings that weren't set up the way I wanted them, with early pax. Boing, boing, bounce, bash.

Don't be that guy. Heh. Go around, set it up again.

I feel sorry for those early rental airplanes now that I own. Heh.

No landing is mandatory, if you're not out of gas and the engine is turning. All approaches end in a go-around unless you're convinced you're on-speed and on target. ;)

Have fun taking up your first pax. You'll be surprised at what bothers them vs. what bothers you. :)
 
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