Plane Crash in Warren Co. Ohio 3/19/2020

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    Sad to hear. A pity he couldn't put it down safely. Ohio is well known for its vertically challenged terrain. RIP.
     
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    Lots of flatland, to be sure, but much of it has trees. And trees hurt, even at walking speed.
    Edit: Pilot was a recent ATP, and had multi-engine sea rating as well as single/multi land. He owned a PA-28R-180.
     
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    Sad RIP
     
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    I live just a little ways east of Morrow on 22. Weather at that time last night was pretty gnarly. Fog, low ceilings, convective downpours, gusty, etc. When I first saw a tweet from a local news station about a plane down nearby I went to flightaware to see if it was something big / commercial because I was thinking it was doubtful little guys would be out in that crap last night. Not playing NTSB. Even if it was something mechanical it was a rough night regardless.
     
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    That crash area near the Little Miami River is pretty anomalously hilly. Hilly enough they don't allow trucks on Route 350, and there are truck climb hills on 22 near there. Gotta get more towards ILN to get to the flat open land.
     
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    Pardon my presumptive comments, the accident may not be related at all to my assertions.

    Flying into an area of strong storms at 11:00 PM after a long cross country flight is something one should consider before attempting. Fatigue could become a contributing factor to degraded performance if things get dicey.

    As appears to be common in some of these incidents, the draw to press on to the destination seems to increase significantly in proportion to its proximity.
     
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    Almost sounds like he was either ferrying the aircraft or bringing it home for himself after a purchase. OK to Cleremont County is a long flight. Sad none the less.

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    Yeah, the valleys cut by the rivers around here reach 400' or so below the flatlands.
     
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    Plane seemingly wasn't registered, even though it had been making a few IFR trips from Ohio to El Paso the last few months. Interesting.
     
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    The FAA seems to take a while to get stuff done, more after the shutdown, even more with COVID.
     
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    If 11:00 at night, with marginal WX, that’s two ‘red flags’ right there.

    Just going off posts above, don’t know the actual weather.
     
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    Live ATC, sounded like he was having autopilot issues, then made a call about heavy turbulence, then going down...sad
     
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    ‘Auto pilot issues’? That just means the pilot takes over & flys the plane without the A/P. At least that’s the way it’s been historically.
     
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    I agree. I flew three hours in zed visibility in my Skyhawk, with autopilot issues: it never had one. Tedious, to be sure.