Pizza Faus Pas!

RJM62

RJM62

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New York City mayor Bill de Blasio has been observed eating pizza -- with a knife and fork! :hairraise:

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Mayor-gets-piece-of-NYC-s-mind-on-pizza-etiquette-5132037.php

It's hard to fathom how de Blasio, of all people, doesn't know that the proper way to eat pizza is to fold it and eat it with your hands. Only transplants from Chicago eat it with a knife and fork.

This could seriously affect the Mayor's effectiveness, not to mention putting the kibosh on any hope of re-election. I can't imagine how anyone will take him seriously after this. :no:

-Rich
 
He can probably overcome this. But, if he drags his hot dog through the garden, he's got issues.
 
Well, I guess it's "Time for some traffic problems" again!
 
Does he put ketchup on his hot dog :)
 
Next you'll see him washing it down with a large soda, and going out for a cigarette before hopping in the horse driven getaway car.
 
wsuffa said:
Was it Chicago-style pizza?
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Nope.

But it did have smoked mozzarella on it. Sounds like upscale pizza being passed over on the NY pizza illiterates as high class.

This is one I have to agree with Rich on. Thin crust pizza is meant to be eaten with hands. Whether it is pie cut or square cut, you pick it up.

Now the Chicago style thin crust is a little better to eat with one's hands. Where the NY style has to be folded or else the grease runs out and gets on your sleeveless t-shirts. In Chicago we get the crust a little more cooked so it is more cracker like and fully cooked, use good quality cheese to minimize grease and then cut it into squares so the pieces are smaller and easier to manage. This way you also get the ingredients in your mouth to taste instead of just dough. Basically the NY style of pie forces one to make a calzone at the table.
 
What's scary is that as a City Council member, de Blasio lived in and represented the district in Brooklyn where I grew up, in which can be found Lenny's Pizzeria, which is universally recognized as the pizzeria by which all other pizzerias are measured. So Bill can't claim ignorance as a defense.

I have to wonder if maybe his eating pizza with a knife and fork was actually some sort of distress signal. You know, like flying the flag upside-down. That sort of thing. That's the only explanation I can think of to justify such a serious sacrilege.

-Rich
 
RJM62 said:
What's scary is that as a City Council member, de Blasio lived in and represented the district in Brooklyn where I grew up, in which can be found Lenny's Pizzeria, which is universally recognized as the pizzeria by which all other pizzerias are measured. So Bill can't claim ignorance as a defense.

I have to wonder if maybe his eating pizza with a knife and fork was actually some sort of distress signal. You know, like flying the flag upside-down. That sort of thing. That's the only explanation I can think of to justify such a serious sacrilege.

-Rich
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The real question is what did Chris Christie know about this and when did he know about it!!!!

I sense a scandal here with NJ Governor's office behind it!!! :lol::lol:
 
ScottM said:
Nope.

But it did have smoked mozzarella on it. Sounds like upscale pizza being passed over on the NY pizza illiterates as high class.

This is one I have to agree with Rich on. Thin crust pizza is meant to be eaten with hands. Whether it is pie cut or square cut, you pick it up.

Now the Chicago style thin crust is a little better to eat with one's hands. Where the NY style has to be folded or else the grease runs out and gets on your sleeveless t-shirts. In Chicago we get the crust a little more cooked so it is more cracker like and fully cooked, use good quality cheese to minimize grease and then cut it into squares so the pieces are smaller and easier to manage. This way you also get the ingredients in your mouth to taste instead of just dough. Basically the NY style of pie forces one to make a calzone at the table.
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It's an acquired skill, Scott. Like all other worthwhile endeavors, it requires practice and discipline.

-Rich
 
RJM62 said:
It's an acquired skill, Scott. Like all other worthwhile endeavors, it requires practice and discipline.

-Rich
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If folding a slice in half requires skill, practice and discipline to eat, I would fathom that walking and chewing gum at the same time represents an almost insurmountable challenge for the average NY style pizza eater! :goofy:
 
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RJM62 said:
What's scary is that as a City Council member, de Blasio lived in and represented the district in Brooklyn where I grew up, in which can be found Lenny's Pizzeria, which is universally recognized as the pizzeria by which all other pizzerias are measured. So Bill can't claim ignorance as a defense.

I have to wonder if maybe his eating pizza with a knife and fork was actually some sort of distress signal. You know, like flying the flag upside-down. That sort of thing. That's the only explanation I can think of to justify such a serious sacrilege.

-Rich
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I am going to be in Brooklyn in April for a meeting. Where should I go for a slice of pizza? SERIOUS QUESTION AND NOT MEANT AS PART OF OUR PIZZA RIBBING!
 
RJM62 said:
It's hard to fathom how de Blasio, of all people, doesn't know that the proper way to eat pizza is to fold it and eat it with your hands. Only transplants from Chicago eat it with a knife and fork.
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Good pizza requires a fork.
 
ScottM said:
I am going to be in Brooklyn in April for a meeting. Where should I go for a slice of pizza? SERIOUS QUESTION AND NOT MEANT AS PART OF OUR PIZZA RIBBING!
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In all seriousness, my two favorite pizzerias in the world have always been Lenny's at 594 5th Avenue, and Luigi's at 686 5th Avenue. I haven't been to Lenny's in a while, so my information is based on its famed history; but I was at Luigi's not long ago; and because of more recent familiarity and the pizza's excellence, it's Luigi's that I recommend at present.

Both of these pizzerias have a common history, by the way. Luigi's is presently run by Giovanni Lonzo, who is the son of Luigi Lonzo, who worked at Lenny's back in the 1960's. Luigi opened his own pizzeria, suitably named "Luigi's," in the late 1960's or early 1970's. It's right around the corner from where I was raised. I went to school with Giovanni. He was a year or two behind me, and he's now the owner and lead pizzaiolo of Luigi's.

Incidentally, Luigi's serves what has earned the covered "Perfect Pizza Slice" rating by the noted pizza connoisseur site Worstpizza.com. So this may well be a case of the student surpassing the teacher; and it's also why I actually recommend Luigi's over Lenny's nowadays, despite Lenny's historic greatness.

It's a really long drive for me (or an even longer flight / drive), but maybe I can meet you there for a slice in April. I've done crazier things.

-Rich
 
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No more horse an buggies,eat pizza with a fork,the next thing will be no hot dog vendors on the street. I thought he was a man of the people?
 
You know those frozen Tortino's pizzas? Horrid pizza yes but a great hangover cures. I used to nuke them for a few minutes, then roll them up in to a cylinder and eat them like a large hot dog.
 
I dont worry about what he does to his pizza, I worry about what he does to the city.
 
RJM62 said:
In all seriousness, my two favorite pizzerias in the world have always been Lenny's at 594 5th Avenue, and Luigi's at 686 5th Avenue. I haven't been to Lenny's in a while, so my information is based on its famed history; but I was at Luigi's not long ago; and because of more recent familiarity and the pizza's excellence, it's Luigi's that I recommend at present.

Both of these pizzerias have a common history, by the way. Luigi's is presently run by Giovanni Lonzo, who is the son of Luigi Lonzo, who worked at Lenny's back in the 1960's. Luigi opened his own pizzeria, suitably named "Luigi's," in the late 1960's or early 1970's. It's right around the corner from where I was raised. I went to school with Giovanni. He was a year or two behind me, and he's now the owner and lead pizzaiolo of Luigi's.

Incidentally, Luigi's serves what has earned the covered "Perfect Pizza Slice" rating by the noted pizza connoisseur site Worstpizza.com. So this may well be a case of the student surpassing the teacher; and it's also why I actually recommend Luigi's over Lenny's nowadays, despite Lenny's historic greatness.

It's a really long drive for me (or an even longer flight / drive), but maybe I can meet you there for a slice in April. I've done crazier things.

-Rich
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Thanks. Not sure exactly where our meeting will be. But I will keep these in mind and will make an effort to get there. I will also try and get pictures too.
 
NEW YORK (CNN) - New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio bit into some unexpected publicity recently when he was photographed politely eating pizza with a knife and fork.

De Blasio enjoyed the pizza last week at Staten Island's Goodfella's, and the jokes haven't stopped.

Now the pizzeria owner wants to auction the infamous fork for charity.

De Blasio's office says they're all for it and "hope they include the knife to raise even more funds."
 
I occasionally eat pizza with a knife and fork. It's a habit I picked up when I was in high school the year after my oral surgery. It included a deliberate LeFort I fracture to remove my upper jaw and cutting it into 3 pieces before putting it back together again. The right side of the roof of my mouth is about 1mm higher than the left.

Part of the effects afterwards was because they cut my upper jaw off, it took a while for the nerves to heal, so the roof of my mouth was numb. I could burn the skin off the roof of my mouth and I wouldn't know it. So I had to do stuff like stick my fingers in food to gauge temperature and slice pizza into bite sized chunks to blow on them to cool them down.

--Carlos "things are back to normal, now" V.
 
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ScottM said:
If folding a slice in half requires skill, practice and discipline to eat, I would fathom that walking and chewing gum at the same time represents an almost insurmountable challenge for the average NY style pizza eater! :goofy:
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The fold isn't to stop the grease, it's to impart stiffness to pieces that are lacking rigidity either because the dough is too soggy or the slices are so large that they can't handle the weight. The other option is to sit there with two hands supporting the saggy pointy end or resorting to the dreaded knife and fork.

In addition to Chicago-style pies, napolitan style pizzas are excusably eaten with utensils, but you won't see them other than in the more hipster style outlets in NY.
 
Is the recipe for making NY style pizza still:


  • Soak a large matzo cracker in water until no longer crispy
  • Cover limp soggy matzo with ketchup
  • Cover ketchup covered matzo with bad quality cheese
  • Microwave for 2 minutes.
  • If cheese is not of low enough quality to produce a lake of oil, pour one cup of vegetable oil over the matzo-ketchup-cheese concoction and microwave for another minute.
That's still how you make it, correct?
 
EdFred said:
Is the recipe for making NY style pizza still:


  • Soak a large matzo cracker in water until no longer crispy
  • Cover limp soggy matzo with ketchup
  • Cover ketchup covered matzo with bad quality cheese
  • Microwave for 2 minutes.
  • If cheese is not of low enough quality to produce a lake of oil, pour one cup of vegetable oil over the matzo-ketchup-cheese concoction and microwave for another minute.
That's still how you make it, correct?
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New York greasewheels.:D
 
EdFred said:
Is the recipe for making NY style pizza still:


  • Soak a large matzo cracker in water until no longer crispy
  • Cover limp soggy matzo with ketchup
  • Cover ketchup covered matzo with bad quality cheese
  • Microwave for 2 minutes.
  • If cheese is not of low enough quality to produce a lake of oil, pour one cup of vegetable oil over the matzo-ketchup-cheese concoction and microwave for another minute.
That's still how you make it, correct?
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Maybe at the chain shops. Not at a real pizzeria.

-Rich
 
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