Jeanie
Pattern Altitude
Have any of you had experience with a piper 6x or XT?
Have any of you had experience with a piper 6x or XT?
I imagine it would be just like an '80s-vintage, fixed-gear Saratoga with a new instrument panel and smaller windows (?!).
He'll want an RG model if he wants some speed, he'll need a twin for speed and load.Well, yes... Are you saying they're slow? I have a student who wants a fast plane that will haul a lot... As in a six seated with a decent payload.
WHAT ??????
You don't have a factory brochure?
He'll want an RG model if he wants some speed, he'll need a twin for speed and load.
I think he just summarized it in language you could understand. :wink2:
Originally Posted by kgruber
WHAT ??????
You don't have a factory brochure?
Jeanie, the 6X is a good plane for what it is, but why does this guy want one... And why, when he's still a student? It is a lot of plane to be flying around as a fresh 'un, especially if he's local to you. It is not a hot rod at sea level, hot day in Alpine would be an adventure, indeed.
Jeannie, you are experienced enough to share the pilot accident record coming out of alpine. He obviously needs the load capacity.
I'd be giving him some NTSB High altitude/Summer accident reading materials, like from Eager AZ, Springerville, Show Low, St. John's, etc. They may make him a little more circumspect.
WHAT ??????
You don't have a factory brochure?
~~~~~. He's a doctor and wanted a multi.... I've talked him into a single.
Ok, I'll ask.....and start a new thread I think....
So, we have a rich, intelligent motivated doctor... New student just solo'd a 152...
Should he get a multi for his first plane or a decent single like an A36?
Let the opinions fly!
Jeanne, this of course has nothing to do with whether or not the guy's a doctor. It has to do with his decision making and whether or not he has the right temperament to be PIC. If he has the right makeup, he needs buy a Seneca and get on with it.Ok, I'll ask.....and start a new thread I think....
So, we have a rich, intelligent motivated doctor... New student just solo'd a 152...
Should he get a multi for his first plane or a decent single like an A36?
Let the opinions fly!
Correct.If a person doesn't have the right temperament it doesn't matter if they are SEL or MEL, they will not be safe in either and the Seneca and Lance and Baron and Bo will kill the same amount of people if handled improperly. If a person isn't safe in a multi they aren't safe in a single either.
Correct.
But they kill themselves and their families a tad slower in the single. One day with the whole family aboard he'll box an engine in the Baron, think he's got it control, and then- when it goes over Vmca it's a bit like a SnapRoll.
In the single he just lands out....
Ok, I'll ask.....and start a new thread I think....
So, we have a rich, intelligent motivated doctor... New student just solo'd a 152...
Should he get a multi for his first plane or a decent single like an A36?
Let the opinions fly!
A King Air with autofeather and rudder boost is the safest plane he could own.
A King Air with autofeather and rudder boost is the safest plane he could own.
Amen!
That and a pro pilot.
He'll need one for a while, maybe for a long time, and perhaps even for a real long time. A friend who bought one 3 years ago never flew it by himself, although he planned to do so as soon as the insurance company approved. He forgot that the ultimate approval (from SWMBO) might be a tad more difficult to come by.
Lots of people who get into 2 pilot cockpits aren't that eager to go back to single pilot.