Part 91 owner operator

[Tom-D]

http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_818902_AK.+business+.html

I didn't know these certificates could be transferred.

 

[DavidWhite]

AND you can do it as a private pilot lol

 

[Jim Logajan]

http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_818902_AK.+business+.html

I didn't know these certificates could be transferred.

I don't believe there is any certificate of the sort you are thinking of - he says he has a letter. Be curious to see when he got it and what it says. Such Part 91 commercial entities have a long history in Alaska, thanks to a legal decision made 50 years ago that is discussed in this famous case:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=cecil+humble+rainy+pass&hl=en&as_sdt=2,14&case=11524765852581158083&scilh=0

 

[Tom-D]

AND you can do it as a private pilot lol

Many of the lodge owners and guide operators feel they were Grand Fathered (for a lack of a better term) thru the interpretation of the Alaskan FAA regional Administration.

Incidental to the job, is the term used. they believe as long as the flight is not charged as a separate cost they are legal, and to change that, the FAA must use the Notice to Proposed Rule Change method of changing the regulation.

The FAA believes that the interpretation wasn't a rule to be changed, thus they can stop these flights simply by posting a letter that says they are not incidental to the job.

This policy will devastate the hunting/ guide/ fishing / tourist industry in Ak.

 

[Tom-D]

I don't believe there is any certificate of the sort you are thinking of

" Certificate " was not a good term to use. One of my Supercub owners provides horse grain to hunting camps during the Alaskan mountain Goat hunting season. He buys Horse feed whole sale, and sells it to the hunting camp owner retail, he delivers it in his super cub.

He has a letter that says his business was reviewed by the local FSDO and determined to be legal. As he owns the grain he is transporting, he can fly it in his aircraft with nether a CPL or a 135 certificate, because the sale of it is after the transportation occurs.

 

[GCA319]

I don't believe there is any certificate of the sort you are thinking of - he says he has a letter. Be curious to see when he got it and what it says. Such Part 91 commercial entities have a long history in Alaska, thanks to a legal decision made 50 years ago that is discussed in this famous case:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=cecil+humble+rainy+pass&hl=en&as_sdt=2,14&case=11524765852581158083&scilh=0

It's probably an LOA authorizing sightseeing within a 25 sm radius of base. Thoseb are fairly easy to get.

 

[GCA319]

AND you can do it as a private pilot lol

Psshhh. It's Alaska...you don't even need that

 

[Tom-D]

It's probably an LOA authorizing sightseeing within a 25 sm radius of base. Thoseb are fairly easy to get.

but…. you need a CPL to do that. you are holding out to the public as a commercial operation.

The guides and others that offer packages were not charging for the flight, nor was it mentioned in the package sold. IOWs they were giving rides in their aircraft free of charge, just to get the buyers of the package to and from their places of business.

 

[weilke]

but…. you need a CPL to do that. you are holding out to the public as a commercial operation.

The guides and others that offer packages were not charging for the flight, nor was it mentioned in the package sold. IOWs they were giving rides in their aircraft free of charge, just to get the buyers of the package to and from their places of business.

The FAA/NTSB dinged a guy for flying people to his bar on one of the islands in lake Erie for a Superbowl party. Same structure, bill for the party, not the flight.
I guess rules are different in Alaska.

 

[Tom-D]

The FAA/NTSB dinged a guy for flying people to his bar on one of the islands in lake Erie for a Superbowl party. Same structure, bill for the party, not the flight.
I guess rules are different in Alaska.

Actually it's just an uneven application of the rules.