Part 107 remote PIC time

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  1. airheadpenguin

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    Like any pilot I'm looking to make sure that my time is properly reported. A thought occurred to me last night.

    Does Part 107 time count towards total time for ratings and part 135 mins?

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    My guess would be "no".
     
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    Why would Part 107 have anything to do with Part 135 mins? There's way more to Part 135 than the min hour listed as well. Company mins far exceed Part 135 mins. Good luck getting 2,000 hrs TT and 100 hrs NVG helo in a drone.
     
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    I agree on the quality of the pilot time being zilch except for drone ops but you could say the same for glider, balloon and whatever else and those do count towards the 500 hour total time requirement for vfr part 135 minimum.

    Also 20 min at a time is a hard way to build time in a dji

    After all part 91 counts towards 135 so there is credit for total time defined in another section and Part 107 ops will be certificated unlike ultralights which don't count.

    This really is a curiosity to see if someone else has found where it would/wouldn't be allowed in the FARs

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    I think you should log all of it as PIC time. Especially since those multirotor toys (especially the really expensive "professional" versions) require almost as much skill to fly as a operating a TV remote. ;)
     
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    Clearly we need a column for the level of difficulty of the flight. AP used? GPS used? In flight weather? Check all 3 no credit for you.

    How about cfi time watching a student do touch and goes? What's the value there?

    Looks like everyone wants to **** on part 107 rather than answer a question. WriteStuff came closest to the likely answer

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    61.51(a), 61.51(b)(iv)
    And a drone flyer is called a UAS Operator not a pilot. If they were pilots they would get paid less :stirspot:

    In all reality I would log the type and flight times in a separate logbook with a quick note on what kind of operations.


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    Part 107 was originally going to call them UAS Operators, but now they will be referred to as Remote Pilots (Remote PIC).
     
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    I'm still waiting on IACRA to allow me to apply for the Remote rating.. took the "test" for part107.. not sure I really needed to do this since I have the 333 but did anyway since I basically requested the same as what the part 107 gives me..
     
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    The new certification will be massively easier to use than operating with your 333. You've taken the online test, the certification should appear in IACRA in late August. Six weeks and you can toss your 333 into the trash.
     
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    Your current 333 exemption will be in effect until expiration, but as you noted part 107 will obviate the need to renew the exemption (as is the case for 99% of folks under a 333 exemption).
     
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    And a 107 certification gives you a HUGE amount more flexibility than a 333. Since the new certification can be gotten by simply passing a written test, I can't imagine why anyone would consider still operating under a 333 exemption...
     
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    There is no 14 CFR 61.51 equivalent in part 107. There are no flight experience requirements, nor are there any provisions for logging flight experience under the small UAS rule. As such, there is no provision to log flight time flying a small unmanned aircraft.