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Linking to this thread for reference
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=564

Yesterday my wife and I celebrated our 5th anniversary with the reception that we never had. Everything turned out beautifully. EXCEPT......

We had the same jeweler linked above make new rings for us. Here's a little background:

My wife wears her engagement ring daily (mostly, about 99.99% of the time) and we both wear a simple white-gold band with an inscription also made by the same jeweler. We agreed, when we married that at our reception at year 5 there would be bling for me :). Now, she wants to be able to not wear the engagement ring and put it away for heirloom purposes (custom made- 5 figure value in diamonds and metallurgy, even without the creativity). So we agreed to replace her band as well with a nice band with diamonds too. We did some looking online, catalog surfing, jewelry store glass fogging, all for looking for inspiration. When we finally had it, we gave him the descriptions of what we wanted and made it clear that we needed it by Saturday 10/11/2014. I made the same family discount agreement and payment plan (very favorable) and sent the check at 50% so he could begin making them.

I called every Wednesday checking progress and he assured me that he's coming along. On the call on the 8th, I thought he'd say that he's done, but he wasn't and I was concerned. He called the next day and had gotten into work late and was going to next day ship them about midday on Thursday. I'm thinking, fine, will arrive on Friday.

He called Thursday evening to report that it's enroute via USPS and he will get the tracking number for me tomorrow morning. He didn't take pictures either :no:. I am getting a significant "hook up" and he's always been reliable so, I am comfortable based on his track record to keep my stress in check.

Friday he calls with the tracking number and the USPS website says 2 DAY DELIVERY (WTF???). I talked to the lady at the post office at my office and she explains that sometimes next day isn't possible due to location, I do live in a rural area so it makes sense. She shows me a printout of their internal system and I note the address is correct and note the insured value is $50 dollars.:yikes:

Still in control of my stress and disappointment that there is no way to intercept, speed up or exert influence over the situation, I brood over my plan to call my local post office at strategic early Saturday morning hours to get hold if the right person to help.

Saturday morning, they're not happy with my calls, clearly they were not feeling my intention, they just wanted to do their thing. I'll get it when I get it. I was greatly concerned about the carrier doing a Ninja drive by and not being able to leave the carats without hand delivery, signatures, etc.

Throw in that we had a charity event for my daughters school that morning, the house was going to be empty. So we hatched this plan: while I went to the event with the children, my wife went to the post office. They could not find the package. :sad:We were now at the mercy of fate. Maybe it's with the letter carrier, maybe if he comes he'll put it in the mailbox. Maybe maybe maybe....

We came home from the event, no mailman (good) we scoped out, listening ears perked all day. Were waiting for relatives. No mailman.

Time for me to head to my moms to change and get to the venue, no mailman - he's REALLY late today.

I got to moms, checked my email and viola! The mailman arrived, except the tracking said "UNDELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED". What the hell does that mean!

Somehow he snuck in just like a Ninja, left junk mail in the box and scurried off with our package. My wife tried to no avail to find him in the neighborhood. She went to the post office, with unanswered pleas for someone to answer the door. She could hear them milling about in our small town post office.

Remember the $50 insured value:mad2:

I am really worried. Is the package lost? If it is, then what? It's only insured for $50:sad: if that's the case, how in the world do we have the discussion with the jeweler, a friend of the family about replacement?:confused:

One thing is for certain: this has revealed a need for us to make friends with our postal workers. Perhaps they will be a bit more helpful in the future - hey had ZERO empathy this time.
 
Linking to this thread for reference
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=564

Yesterday my wife and I celebrated our 5th anniversary with the reception that we never had. Everything turned out beautifully. EXCEPT......

We had the same jeweler linked above make new rings for us. Here's a little background:

My wife wears her engagement ring daily (mostly, about 99.99% of the time) and we both wear a simple white-gold band with an inscription also made by the same jeweler. We agreed, when we married that at our reception at year 5 there would be bling for me :). Now, she wants to be able to not wear the engagement ring and put it away for heirloom purposes (custom made- 5 figure value in diamonds and metallurgy, even without the creativity). So we agreed to replace her band as well with a nice band with diamonds too. We did some looking online, catalog surfing, jewelry store glass fogging, all for looking for inspiration. When we finally had it, we gave him the descriptions of what we wanted and made it clear that we needed it by Saturday 10/11/2014. I made the same family discount agreement and payment plan (very favorable) and sent the check at 50% so he could begin making them.

I called every Wednesday checking progress and he assured me that he's coming along. On the call on the 8th, I thought he'd say that he's done, but he wasn't and I was concerned. He called the next day and had gotten into work late and was going to next day ship them about midday on Thursday. I'm thinking, fine, will arrive on Friday.

He called Thursday evening to report that it's enroute via USPS and he will get the tracking number for me tomorrow morning. He didn't take pictures either :no:. I am getting a significant "hook up" and he's always been reliable so, I am comfortable based on his track record to keep my stress in check.

Friday he calls with the tracking number and the USPS website says 2 DAY DELIVERY (WTF???). I talked to the lady at the post office at my office and she explains that sometimes next day isn't possible due to location, I do live in a rural area so it makes sense. She shows me a printout of their internal system and I note the address is correct and note the insured value is $50 dollars.:yikes:

Still in control of my stress and disappointment that there is no way to intercept, speed up or exert influence over the situation, I brood over my plan to call my local post office at strategic early Saturday morning hours to get hold if the right person to help.

Saturday morning, they're not happy with my calls, clearly they were not feeling my intention, they just wanted to do their thing. I'll get it when I get it. I was greatly concerned about the carrier doing a Ninja drive by and not being able to leave the carats without hand delivery, signatures, etc.

Throw in that we had a charity event for my daughters school that morning, the house was going to be empty. So we hatched this plan: while I went to the event with the children, my wife went to the post office. They could not find the package. :sad:We were now at the mercy of fate. Maybe it's with the letter carrier, maybe if he comes he'll put it in the mailbox. Maybe maybe maybe....

We came home from the event, no mailman (good) we scoped out, listening ears perked all day. Were waiting for relatives. No mailman.

Time for me to head to my moms to change and get to the venue, no mailman - he's REALLY late today.

I got to moms, checked my email and viola! The mailman arrived, except the tracking said "UNDELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED". What the hell does that mean!

Somehow he snuck in just like a Ninja, left junk mail in the box and scurried off with our package. My wife tried to no avail to find him in the neighborhood. She went to the post office, with unanswered pleas for someone to answer the door. She could hear them milling about in our small town post office.

Remember the $50 insured value:mad2:

I am really worried. Is the package lost? If it is, then what? It's only insured for $50:sad: if that's the case, how in the world do we have the discussion with the jeweler, a friend of the family about replacement?:confused:

One thing is for certain: this has revealed a need for us to make friends with our postal workers. Perhaps they will be a bit more helpful in the future - hey had ZERO empathy this time.

Jeweler should have used Fed Ex next day and insured it for the value..

His failure for sure.......

I hope it gets found cause the best you will do is get 50 bucks from USPS...... And........ They will fight tooth and nail and it will take 10 months to get the settlement...
 
Wow, Jay, that's horrible. Had a similar scare with the engagement ring. ("We had to ship it to NYC to be recut. We'll have it back in time.") It all worked out. Hope your situation does too.
 
Congrats; our five year anniversary was yesterday, too. Went by quickly. Hope the USPS comes through for you on Tuesday.
 
Sorry for your troubles. It's in the post office, and unavailable until Tuesday because of the holiday.
October 11 must have be a popular day. My wife and I were married on October 11, 34 years ago.

May you all have many years of happiness.
 
We just had #29 a couple weeks ago. She still wears the best I could afford at the time.

Congratulations on #5!! That's a bigger deal than most people realize. Too bad the ring has turned into such an adventure.
 
Just last week I had an experience with at tracked package that showed up as "undeliverable as addressed". They were documents I sent to a brokerage. They didn't have any monetary value but I wouldn't want them to be lost or to get into the wrong hands. The office had moved recently and had a new address. Two business days later the package showed as "delivered". I'm not sure why they couldn't deliver it the first time. In the interim I visited the local post office where I had mailed it and they said if it could not be delivered it would be returned to address on the return label but that it would take about a week. Hopefully your package is just late, not lost.
 
Damn that's a lot of mental energy pizzed into the void for make believe traditions. Sometimes tradition is good and sometimes it is boogyed up to sell you down the road. Relax man, you are still married and living proper functioning family life metal and stone trinkets or not.
 
Why would you send anything of value by US Mail? Ever? :dunno:

FedX
UPS

In that order.

I have a Dental Lab and have clients all over the country. The average price for the contents is $500-1000 and some of the big cases will be $2-3000. I send a couple of packages a day Priority Mail. 95% get there in 2 days and if I send on a Friday it gets there on Monday. In 10 years I have only had a couple of packages that got delayed for a few extra days. FedEx and UPS have just gotten insane on their pricing. A 2 day FedEx averages about $25 compared to $6.50 for Priority Mail. A FedEX overnight is around $55 for one of my under 2# shipments. What really makes me mad is the huge discounts that FedEx and UPS give to the big shippers like Amazon. They are only paying around $5 to ship an overnight 2# package. Don
 
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The mailman arrived, except the tracking said "UNDELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED". What the hell does that mean!

Remember the $50 insured value:mad2:


They probably held it because the jeweler gave mailing instructions requiring a signature, and since no one was to home, ....
(jeweler's fault)
 
Yeah I hope it's just late not lost. That would really suck only getting 50 bucks from the post office.

I learned the hard way when I sold an expensive flightsim joystick on ebay. Shipped USPS.
Purchaser claimed he never got it. Then filed a dispute with ebay and later claimed that his mom signed for a package because he wasn't home, but when he returned, the box was empty. WTF:confused:.
Long story short, he either lied or the post office F'kd up! I lost:mad2:

Never again will I ship expensive items via USPS:nonod:.

Congrats on your 5th!
 
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Jeweler should have used Fed Ex next day and insured it for the value..

His failure for sure.......

I hope it gets found cause the best you will do is get 50 bucks from USPS...... And........ They will fight tooth and nail and it will take 10 months to get the settlement...

EXACTLY!
 
Yeah I hope it's just late not lost. That would really suck only getting 50 bucks from the post office.

I learned the hard way when I sold an expensive flightsim joystick on ebay. Shipped USPS.
Purchaser claimed he never got it. Then filed a dispute with ebay and later claimed that his mom signed for a package because he wasn't home, but when he returned, the box was empty. WTF:confused:.
Long story short, he either lied or the post office F'kd up! I lost:mad2:

Never again will I ship expensive items via USPS:nonod:.

Congrats on your 5th!

I Have no intentions in claiming $50 loss. I will simply communicate to the jeweler that I never received it. Delivery is his responsibilitiy. He is aware of our adventure, as he called this morning to check status.
 
I Have no intentions in claiming $50 loss. I will simply communicate to the jeweler that I never received it. Delivery is his responsibilitiy. He is aware of our adventure, as he called this morning to check status.

I had to re-read that part...got it.
Hope it shows up tomorrow.
 
I've sent and received dozens of pocket watches, some solid gold. Had one misfire, and it was insured.

I've sent thousands of packages. It was what I use to do for a living! Trusting USPS is a bad risk as you and Jay found out. I have never, ever had a problem with UPS or FED X. Ever! With the post office you can rest assured you will lose 5 out of 100.

USPS runs a deficit every year and must be bailed out of congress. Tax payers are subsidizing a government agency that is suppose to be self supporting through postage rates.
 
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I had to re-read that part...got it.
Hope it shows up tomorrow.

Because there is no mail service today, another reason not to use USPS to ship anything. They take more holidays than any other shipper.
 
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When Harry Winston donated the Hope diamond to the Smithsonian Institution, he sent it in a hand addressed and stamped envelope from his New York office to Washington via USPS surface mail.

:D :D
 
I save around $8000 a year using Priority over FedEx and again they have never lost one in the last ten years. Pays for a lot of Avgas! Don
 
Jeweler should have used Fed Ex next day and insured it for the value..

His failure for sure.......

I hope it gets found cause the best you will do is get 50 bucks from USPS...... And........ They will fight tooth and nail and it will take 10 months to get the settlement...

Ha! Fed Ex is no guarantee either. I had a computer shipped next day because I was leaving on a boat that evening and needed it. I watched the tracking, watched the Fed Ex dude drive down the street (he turns at the end and then delivers my side) I stand out by the street as he comes by and he doesn't stop. I look up the status and it says "Undeliverable". There is no lack of crap employees at any company. That the guy insured it for $50 is a big mistake.
 
I've sent thousands of packages. It was what I use to do for a living! Trusting USPS is a bad risk as you and Jay found out. I have never, ever had a problem with UPS or FED X. Ever! With the post office you can rest assured you will lose 5 out of 100.

USPS runs a deficit every year and must be bailed out of congress. Tax payers are subsidizing a government agency that is suppose to be self supporting through postage rates.

USPS runs a deficit because congress has mandated that they do so, not because of mismanagement. Well, not mismanagement at the business unit level anyway. Definitely mismanagement at the congressional level. Congress has required increased spending and denied increased postage rates. There are some other things going on also (email, Fedex/UPS competition), but those two alone are the core problem.
 
Used to be in the (legal)drug shipping business. Company would periodically switch from UPS to FedEx and back after cycles of stuff going missing as employees figured out what went to whom. Surprised me that the shippers couldn't or wouldn't do much about it,
 
USPS runs a deficit because congress has mandated that they do so, not because of mismanagement. Well, not mismanagement at the business unit level anyway. Definitely mismanagement at the congressional level. Congress has required increased spending and denied increased postage rates. There are some other things going on also (email, Fedex/UPS competition), but those two alone are the core problem.

The CORE problem is the lavish and disgusting UNION contracts that are sucking the system dry....:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:..


And guess who is gonna have to bail out the mess....:dunno:..:mad:
 
The CORE problem is the lavish and disgusting UNION contracts that are sucking the system dry....:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:..


And guess who is gonna have to bail out the mess....:dunno:..:mad:

Yet another reason to use FedX. They are non union, and deliver on Saturday, actually that is 2 good reasons. :lol:
 
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I'm going to blame this on the desire for a 3-day weekend.

I spoke with Brenda this morning, who told me that they were not done sorting until after 11am' they close at noon and Brenda couldn't say how long after 11a sorting was done. Brenda also said that she left a note saying that we would pickup at the post office. We did not give "she" those instructions.

Brenda verbally confirmed that she laid eyes on the package. So now, we're trying to figure out how to intercept before they process the package for return:mad2:.

This would be the perfect opportunity to come bearing a platter of cookies. I may have to leave work early today....and I have a deadline due today.:goofy: (the bouncing smilie is sarcastic)
 
I'm going to blame this on the desire for a 3-day weekend.

I spoke with Brenda this morning, who told me that they were not done sorting until after 11am' they close at noon and Brenda couldn't say how long after 11a sorting was done. Brenda also said that she left a note saying that we would pickup at the post office. We did not give "she" those instructions.

Brenda verbally confirmed that she laid eyes on the package. So now, we're trying to figure out how to intercept before they process the package for return:mad2:.

This would be the perfect opportunity to come bearing a platter of cookies. I may have to leave work early today....and I have a deadline due today.:goofy: (the bouncing smilie is sarcastic)

Hmmmm..

Having to bribe a federal worker to do the job they are highly paid to do...

Only in the good ol USA.... And dealing with union workers...:mad2::mad2:..:mad:..

Ps.. I hope you get the package soon...:yes:
 
Hmmmm..

Having to bribe a federal worker to do the job they are highly paid to do...

Only in the good ol USA.... [snippage]

Um, bribing federal workers to do the job they were paid to do is much, much, MUCH worse in many other countries. Just for perspective.

John
 
Um, bribing federal workers to do the job they were paid to do is much, much, MUCH worse in many other countries. Just for perspective.

John


Just another GOOD reason why I don't visit "other" countries...:no:
 
Just another GOOD reason why I don't visit "other" countries...:no:

Well, it's a mixed experience for sure. But in some countries you have to bribe to get anything done. Here they will mostly do their job (perhaps slowly and with a bad attitude) but none the less, do their job.

And I've dealt with many Federal workers who really try to do a good job as far as the bureaucracy will allow.

John
 
Well, it's a mixed experience for sure. But in some countries you have to bribe to get anything done. Here they will mostly do their job (perhaps slowly and with a bad attitude) but none the less, do their job.

And I've dealt with many Federal workers who really try to do a good job as far as the bureaucracy will allow.

John


Yeah.. Me too....

But they are getting fewer and fewer...:sad:
 
I got a phone call with an explanation of what occurred. It seems there was a misunderstanding with the gentleman (Robert) that I spoke with Saturday morning. He seemed sincere.

The "bribery" is only for the purpose of creating a memory of who we are. Most people don't bond these days nor go out of their way to do anything special for anybody else. We live in a pretty small town.

Wikipedia said:
According to the United States Census Bureau, the CDP has a total area of 28.8 square miles (74.6 km2), of which 27.4 square miles (71.0 km2) is land and 1.4 square miles (3.5 km2), or 4.75%, is water.[4]

I think we can find a way to stand out in a town of <3,000 households :D
 
Yes and of course politeness and the personal touch (cookies) goes along way in helping create goodwill as well.

I certainly hope this gets properly sorted. It took me many more years of marriage to learn how important creating memories can be. Sounds like you've got a head start in that. Good on ya!

John
 
When did the US become a country where barely making enough to support your family was thought of as a "lavish" wage?

But... But... UNIONS! And... GOVERNMENT WASTE!

(never mind reality when there's a sound bite involved)
 
When did the US become a country where barely making enough to support your family was thought of as a "lavish" wage?

http://mailmansalary.com/1/1/salary/Usps-Mail-Carrier-Salary

Hmmm... That is NOT an official USPS site.. Just some website that posts figures...

You might want to check its accuracy....:rolleyes::rolleyes:..

Second... You need to take in ALL the generous benefits postal workers receive with employment with the USPS.....Once totaled up, the bennies will equal the base pay...

And the pension plan is LAVISH!!!!!!!!!!

Your turn...:D
 
Hmmm... That is NOT an official USPS site.. Just some website that posts figures...

You might want to check its accuracy....:rolleyes::rolleyes:..

Second... You need to take in ALL the generous benefits postal workers receive with employment with the USPS.....Once totaled up, the bennies will equal the base pay...

And the pension plan is LAVISH!!!!!!!!!!

Your turn...:D

It's accurate for Ft Lauderdale, at least from my discussion with our mail lady. The pension plan is not lavish either. Beware of right wing propaganda, it's no better than left wing. The fact that the USPS operates under insane pension funding rules that nobody else has to abide by, like FedEx or UPS, is the reason they have financial issues. That FedEx and UPS charge 10xs what USPS does may have something to do with the right wing propaganda.
 
It's accurate for Ft Lauderdale, at least from my discussion with our mail lady. The pension plan is not lavish either:yes::yes::yes:

. Beware of right wing propaganda, it's no better than left wing. The fact that the USPS operates under insane pension funding rules that nobody else has to abide by, like FedEx or UPS, is the reason they have financial issues. That FedEx and UPS charge 10xs what USPS does may have something to do with the right wing propaganda.

Oh come on Hennings...

You are smoking dope again....
 
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