On Oxygen for Driving

I wonder how cars/trucks run up there? Obviously very weak, but that would be interesting to experience.
 
Wonder what the oxygen concentration of the residents would be. Any Pulmonologist in the forum?

José
 
Turbochargers would be the way to go, and I imagine that even modern fuel-injected cars would need some interesting tweaking.
 
Piloto said:
Wonder what the oxygen concentration of the residents would be. Any Pulmonologist in the forum?

José
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In an un-acclimated individual it could get unhealthy. I found a calculator that gave the number of 81% oxygen saturation...

Oxygen DELIVERY however, in acclimated individuals, is improved because their hemoglobin count rises in response to hypoxia. So.. lower saturations, but more hemoglobin to carry blood, so tissues in acclimated individuals get reasonable oxygen delivery.

But I'm not a pulmonologist so I guess I dont know about it :)
 
Doggtyred said:
In an un-acclimated individual it could get unhealthy. I found a calculator that gave the number of 81% oxygen saturation...

Oxygen DELIVERY however, in acclimated individuals, is improved because their hemoglobin count rises in response to hypoxia. So.. lower saturations, but more hemoglobin to carry blood, so tissues in acclimated individuals get reasonable oxygen delivery.

But I'm not a pulmonologist so I guess I dont know about it :)
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Makes sense. But I bet you they take longer siestas to replenish all those hemoglobins.:idea:
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Turbochargers would be the way to go, and I imagine that even modern fuel-injected cars would need some interesting tweaking.
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Definitely, would probably run ok but i'd guess they would be difficult to start!
 
The stench of the town probably doesn't help. The place is a joke, those people are working 30 days to be allowed just one day to find gold for themselves, if they can.

They are not provided with any of the benefits of living in a town that most all people get. No sewage system, no running water.

I would say that is an example of government at it's worst. They are slaves to a completely corrupt system.

Forget using Somalia as an example of how bad things could get, La Rinconada, Peru is closer. They are trading their environment downstream for gold that is handed to them at no labor cost, and absolute minimum investment. The whole place should be bulldozed and re-built properly with some of that gold money, or all of it.

The only mining equipment I saw was about fifty dollars worth of hand tools and a wheelbarrow. It shows what can be accomplished if you have a desperate enough population. That whole place is a disgrace to the government and people of Peru.

-John
 
dell30rb said:
Definitely, would probably run ok but i'd guess they would be difficult to start!
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??? Engines are fine at 14,000' here in Colorado. They start just fine. Well unless they are in disrepair...
 
Fair enough, i was thinking it might have an issue running rich on start up from an engine management computer that has been reset but i'm guessing the manifold pressure gives the computer a baseline
 
I'm no expert. Have been told it's the mass flow sensor that does the important part.

Do know the older system with carbs, points, distributor took more maintenance. Always heard that the carb should be re-jetted but never did on two different vehicles and about ten years of driving. Everything I drive these days is injected and no worries in over 200,000 miles.
 
John Baker said:
The stench of the town probably doesn't help. The place is a joke, those people are working 30 days to be allowed just one day to find gold for themselves, if they can.

They are not provided with any of the benefits of living in a town that most all people get. No sewage system, no running water.

I would say that is an example of government at it's worst. They are slaves to a completely corrupt system.

Forget using Somalia as an example of how bad things could get, La Rinconada, Peru is closer. They are trading their environment downstream for gold that is handed to them at no labor cost, and absolute minimum investment. The whole place should be bulldozed and re-built properly with some of that gold money, or all of it.

The only mining equipment I saw was about fifty dollars worth of hand tools and a wheelbarrow. It shows what can be accomplished if you have a desperate enough population. That whole place is a disgrace to the government and people of Peru.

-John
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Well the Eskimos in northern Alaska has neither running water or sewage.

The residents at Rinconada live there by their own will. They are free to leave the town and move to other cities in Peru.

Unlike Somalia there is no civil war in Peru, slavery, hunger or rape, just poverty. But they all have the freedom to leave if they wish.

I agree with you that the government should be providing more help but unlike other dictatorial governments, Peru is not impairing on the freedom of those who live at Rinconada. They can either stay or leave.

As you noticed in the video the people in Rinconada are descendants from the natives of the New World like the Eskimos. These are people used to harsh living environment just like the Eskimos and Inuit. We on the other hand may not survive without a toilet.

José
 
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