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Cut/pasted from CFO - Cardinal Flyers Online:
The Center response is to be noted.
HR
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From: "Paul Millner [OAK]" <paulmillner@compuserve.com>
Subject: AVwebFlash 13.15a
I heard this somewhere out East while in the clag and trying to find an
approach plate:
*Piper:* Center, Lance Six Two Eight One November, with you at 7,000 feet.
*Center (sounding tired):* Lance, Six Two Eight One November, roger. But
two things: first you don't need to say "feet" because that's
understood. And more importantly, you aren't "with me." I know everybody
in this radar room, and you aren't here.
[Yeah, the “with you” is a pet peeve of mine as well. What is it
supposed to tell anyone, besides the fact that the pilot likes to
consume bandwidth. By the very fact that you’re calling, the controller
has a pretty good clue that you’re there now. If he has you on the
scope, then he knows it’s a hand off. If you got lost somehow, he’ll
ask you what’s up. And either would be true if you *didn’t* say “with
you” too! Some controllers don’t care, others are annoyed by “with
you”. I’ve never heard a controller say that he *liked* it; so cut it
out! Do include your altitude, though on initial callup after hand
off. Otherwise, the controller has to ask for it. More wasted
bandwidth. Paul]
The Center response is to be noted.
HR
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From: "Paul Millner [OAK]" <paulmillner@compuserve.com>
Subject: AVwebFlash 13.15a
I heard this somewhere out East while in the clag and trying to find an
approach plate:
*Piper:* Center, Lance Six Two Eight One November, with you at 7,000 feet.
*Center (sounding tired):* Lance, Six Two Eight One November, roger. But
two things: first you don't need to say "feet" because that's
understood. And more importantly, you aren't "with me." I know everybody
in this radar room, and you aren't here.
[Yeah, the “with you” is a pet peeve of mine as well. What is it
supposed to tell anyone, besides the fact that the pilot likes to
consume bandwidth. By the very fact that you’re calling, the controller
has a pretty good clue that you’re there now. If he has you on the
scope, then he knows it’s a hand off. If you got lost somehow, he’ll
ask you what’s up. And either would be true if you *didn’t* say “with
you” too! Some controllers don’t care, others are annoyed by “with
you”. I’ve never heard a controller say that he *liked* it; so cut it
out! Do include your altitude, though on initial callup after hand
off. Otherwise, the controller has to ask for it. More wasted
bandwidth. Paul]