Ok - why is this important on a sectional?

ircphoenix said:
I'd be coming in from the south... and it's a long way to dodge mountains at 3500 feet if ceilings stayed technically VFR the whole way.
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Looks like the ceiling was marginal yesterday until about 3PM. Did you manage to make it in?
 
coloradobluesky said:
They have these canals in Colorado. And when they come to a gully, a big gully, like 200' deep or more. They put the canal in a pipe and down, then up. Interesting that it works without pumping. The net from one end to the other must be down. Don't go tubing in there :)
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It's the same reason a siphon works, I imagine.
 
Eliminates an aqueduct. Maybe they call it an aqueduct too?
 
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Palmpilot said:
Looks like the ceiling was marginal yesterday until about 3PM. Did you manage to make it in?
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Negatory. Ceilings for most of the day down here and along the route were between 3-5k. Not my kind of mountain dodging weather for 3 hours.
 
And your mountains are a lot higher than ours!
 
roncachamp said:
An aqueduct is defined as "a bridgelike structure that carries a water conduit or canal across a valley or over a river." An "underground aqueduct" sounds like a contradiction in terms.
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I think the bridgelike thing is also called a viaduct. But aqueducts (conveying water,) can be both above and below ground, open or covered.
 
Was just Googling this same question myself and found this thread. At least around here in SoCal, or rather, in the desert, they look like really thin roads from the air... so they are discernible. I'd be curious though, if they only put the ones on the sectional that are actually visible from the air, or if all of the underground pipelines meeting a certain criteria are listed... I'm 99% sure it is the former!
 
Underground pipelines/aqueducts/Hyperloops are marked so the pipeline/aqueduct/Hyperloops patrol guys can find them:D

Cheers
 
@X3 Skier I shudder at the thought. I'm sure they'll market it calling it a "ship" or some sort

Elon Musk is a smart guy, but I have my doubts on Hyperloop. There is so much private land now that the only way that will realistically work is to use existing easements, or find some way to get eminent domain. Has a large scale private venture ever been successful with eminent domain?
 
Tantalum said:
@X3 Skier
Elon Musk is a smart guy, but I have my doubts on Hyperloop. There is so much private land now that the only way that will realistically work is to use existing easements, or find some way to get eminent domain. Has a large scale private venture ever been successful with eminent domain?
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People strangely love the guy. He's got sweetheart deals on all the old public NASA funded infrastructure pretty easily... but land crossing may truly be quite different. He kinda reminds me of Robin William's character in Cadillac Man, with an accent and into tech. Used car salesman vibe. Always Be Closing... Coffee is for closers... :)
 
denverpilot said:
People strangely love the guy. He's got sweetheart deals on all the old public NASA funded infrastructure pretty easily... but land crossing may truly be quite different. He kinda reminds me of Robin William's character in Cadillac Man, with an accent and into tech. Used car salesman vibe. Always Be Closing... Coffee is for closers... :)
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He used to be a hardcore libertarian. Now he's a hardcore rent seeker. None of his ventures would be successful without sucking up tax dollars.
 
Lindberg said:
He used to be a hardcore libertarian. Now he's a hardcore rent seeker. None of his ventures would be successful without sucking up tax dollars.
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Quite common in tech billionaires. You think Mr. "I hunt my own food" Zuckerberg will run under the Libertarian Party banner, now that he wants to play in politics? LOL... I give it worse odds than a snowball's chance in hell.

The other commonality is that most of them stole their ideas... blatantly ripped off someone else's idea once they realized how big it was going to be.*

The only one that started, and stayed, libertarian (and completely frakking crazy) is McAfee. And his video about how to uninstall the anti-virus software his name is on, but he hasn't been associated with for many many years, is absolutely hilarious. Well, Woz too... I love his pad of $2 bills he has made up (real $2 bills, bound like a notepad) that he uses to pay stupid people for things with, so they freak out and think it's fake money. **

* I'm still watching for something to rip off. LOL. Americans love the tech guys who rip other people off, and idolize them. I might as well have a nice turboprop if people are going to be that stupid. Hey, as long as they got their iPhone, they'll cheer you to the ends of the Earth for stealing whatever it took to start your tech company.

** McAfee and Woz actually have talent and can build things, interestingly. They both needed lying marketing wonks to make their stuff sell, though. Anyone want to be my lying marketing wonk? Salary == $0... no benefits... but you can have some toilet paper known as "founders shares" ... go sell that crap, baby! LOL! MAKE ME SOME CULTISTS! (Well, once we figure out what to steal...)
 
denverpilot said:
Quite common in tech billionaires. You think Mr. "I hunt my own food" Zuckerberg will run under the Libertarian Party banner, now that he wants to play in politics? LOL... I give it worse odds than a snowball's chance in hell.

The other commonality is that most of them stole their ideas... blatantly ripped off someone else's idea once they realized how big it was going to be.*

The only one that started, and stayed, libertarian (and completely frakking crazy) is McAfee. And his video about how to uninstall the anti-virus software his name is on, but he hasn't been associated with for many many years, is absolutely hilarious. Well, Woz too... I love his pad of $2 bills he has made up (real $2 bills, bound like a notepad) that he uses to pay stupid people for things with, so they freak out and think it's fake money. **

* I'm still watching for something to rip off. LOL. Americans love the tech guys who rip other people off, and idolize them. I might as well have a nice turboprop if people are going to be that stupid. Hey, as long as they got their iPhone, they'll cheer you to the ends of the Earth for stealing whatever it took to start your tech company.

** McAfee and Woz actually have talent and can build things, interestingly. They both needed lying marketing wonks to make their stuff sell, though. Anyone want to be my lying marketing wonk? Salary == $0... no benefits... but you can have some toilet paper known as "founders shares" ... go sell that crap, baby! LOL! MAKE ME SOME CULTISTS! (Well, once we figure out what to steal...)
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Can I have in too?
 
LOL I've got my ideas for how to do something great with tech, just getting it off the ground is a hard one.
 
This is one of the wildest thread drifts I've seen in a while. From underground whatever's on a sectional to the tech industry structure and political thinking. Is the a POA Record?

Cheers
 
X3 Skier said:
This is one of the wildest thread drifts I've seen in a while. From underground whatever's on a sectional to the tech industry structure and political thinking. Is the a POA Record?

Cheers
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I should find a fiber optic map of the U.S. and lost it after drawing in some routes that go to various government institutions that aren't on the usual maps, to bring the thread full-circle and cover all those bases at once! Hahaha.

(No worries, if I drew in the fiber to those places the route to the nearest CO is where I'd stop... someone else knew that part. Hahaha. And I only know a few. And my path was the non-secret segment.) :-)
 
roncachamp said:
An aqueduct is defined as "a bridgelike structure that carries a water conduit or canal across a valley or over a river." An "underground aqueduct" sounds like a contradiction in terms.
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The OED just describes it as an "artificial channel for the conveyance of water" which is supported by the etymology where aqua means water and ducere means to bring or lead.
 
roncachamp said:
When you build a pipeline and choose to call it an underground aqueduct you look stupid. Just as you do when you tell some guy on the internet who actually uses a dictionary that he needs a better one.
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New York City water is fed by a set of underground aquaducts.

Aquaducts date back to the Romans in ~300BC when they were used to feed palatable water from mountain lakes to Rome. They were a combination of tunnels and bridges to keep a fairly uniform slope to convey the water.
 
So I just realized that I've been spelling aqueduct wrong my whole life, since when is it with an "e" and not an "a"? I am a fool for think "aqua" as in water...
 
I thought Aqueduct was a race track.

Cheers
 
mtuomi said:
There's nothing visible on the surface. I didn't see any when flying and checking google earth, nada.
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I think the cartographer expected it to be visible, just like normal pipelines are. I often use pipelines for pilotage. Although the pipes are under the ground, the earth looks different where pipeline was dug in. But perhaps that aqueduct is more of a tunnel than pipeline, only someone at FAA didn't realize that.
 
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