I was doing some sim training with an IFR student today. Our home airport is U42 (just south of Salt Lake City International, KSLC) and we were practicing taking off from U42 and then shooting approaches about 30 miles north at Ogden airport (KOGD). Around here, the normal departure procedure is to fly the ITOFO1.FFU departure or take off VFR and pick up the IFR clearance in the air.
Because of the mountainous terrain that we fly in, we spend ALOT of time talking about ODPs and how to safely depart unfamiliar airports. We've talked about why following the published missed approach is generally not a good idea (not at the same altitude and starting point as the published procedure).
As this is our home airport, we are quite familiar with the obstacles. My clever student points out that the missed approach waypoints for GPS Y are a great way to track safely out of the airport (and much more direct) towards her flight plan's first waypoint...STACO.
I think her plan in this specific case is fine...what do you think?
Here are the details...Flightplan:
U42-STACO-JOSIF-KOGD.
She wants to fly the route listed in the published miss from U42 GPS Y Approach to get to STACO. From local flying, we know that taking off from runway 34 and climbing at about 350 feet per nautical mile (easy in her plane, turbocharged Saratoga with retractable gear), will keep her clear of obstacles.
If her clearance is "cleared as filed", could she use this missed approach path to get her to STACO? I'm quite sure controllers would be expecting her to shoot the published textual ODP that calls for her to go to the local VOR (TCH) and then to STACO so a heads up to the controller would be in order.
I suggested we shoot the published ODP as the FAA could have listed the missed approach waypoints for U42's GPS Y if they wanted but they obviously chose not too (why? I do not know...). Also, I think shooting the published missed in general is not a good idea when an ODP exists and I don't want to start bad habits....BUT....I do think its not a bad option at all. What do you think?
Thanks - Doug
Because of the mountainous terrain that we fly in, we spend ALOT of time talking about ODPs and how to safely depart unfamiliar airports. We've talked about why following the published missed approach is generally not a good idea (not at the same altitude and starting point as the published procedure).
As this is our home airport, we are quite familiar with the obstacles. My clever student points out that the missed approach waypoints for GPS Y are a great way to track safely out of the airport (and much more direct) towards her flight plan's first waypoint...STACO.
I think her plan in this specific case is fine...what do you think?
Here are the details...Flightplan:
U42-STACO-JOSIF-KOGD.
She wants to fly the route listed in the published miss from U42 GPS Y Approach to get to STACO. From local flying, we know that taking off from runway 34 and climbing at about 350 feet per nautical mile (easy in her plane, turbocharged Saratoga with retractable gear), will keep her clear of obstacles.
If her clearance is "cleared as filed", could she use this missed approach path to get her to STACO? I'm quite sure controllers would be expecting her to shoot the published textual ODP that calls for her to go to the local VOR (TCH) and then to STACO so a heads up to the controller would be in order.
I suggested we shoot the published ODP as the FAA could have listed the missed approach waypoints for U42's GPS Y if they wanted but they obviously chose not too (why? I do not know...). Also, I think shooting the published missed in general is not a good idea when an ODP exists and I don't want to start bad habits....BUT....I do think its not a bad option at all. What do you think?
Thanks - Doug