[Nutrition Thread]Am I really missing the boat on milk?

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I'm not much of a milk drinker at all. The only time I drink it is in a latte or a rare occasional mocha, and I always order nonfat. Figure less calories = better.

Which, makes sense, BUT I eat lots of cheese, and I love butter. Let's say I have a nonfat latte expresso drink in the morning, and have a couple of double cheeseburgers for lunch later on. Doesn't the avoided fat content of the milk pale in comparison to four slices of cheese?

Sort of like the person that orders a triple cheeseburger, extra large fries and a diet coke.

And I don't have a fat phobia. I have a carb phobia.
 
I don't eat a lot of dairy, but the dairy I do eat is full fat.
 
Full fat! Grass-fed, organic. Raw when possible. Sheep or goat preferred.
 
Been plodding along at low carb for a while. Down almost 20. Need to exercise more, but seems to be working.

Since low carb seems to re-sensitize me to tasting sweet, Heavy cream in good coffee is so good it tastes like cheating...
 
I drink a half gallon of whole milk a week. Lowest in carbs.
 
EppyGA said:
I drink a half gallon of whole milk a week. Lowest in carbs.
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Is that true? I'm sure pulling out the fat doesn't result in the addition of carbs. That may be what's left over.
 
Sac Arrow said:
Is that true? I'm sure pulling out the fat doesn't result in the addition of carbs. That may be what's left over.
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If true, it makes sense. If you have one cup of a product that is 50% fat and 50% carbs, remove all the fat from it, and replace it with all carbs to get the volume back to 1cup, you'll have more carbs/cup.
 
EdFred said:
If true, it makes sense. If you have one cup of a product that is 50% fat and 50% carbs, remove all the fat from it, and replace it with all carbs to get the volume back to 1cup, you'll have more carbs/cup.
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True, but the liquid volume of the fat is negligible.
 
Sac Arrow said:
True, but the liquid volume of the fat is negligible.
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Whole is like 4% milkfat (I think). So if you go with skim (barf!) you could see a 4% increase in carbs. Assuming density is the same between the two. Fat is less dense though isn't it? Meaning it takes up more volume.

(not bothering to look it up)
 
EdFred said:
Whole is like 4% milkfat (I think). So if you go with skim (barf!) you could see a 4% increase in carbs. Assuming density is the same between the two. Fat is less dense though isn't it? Meaning it takes up more volume.

(not bothering to look it up)
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Yeah you would have to do the math, nutritional percentages are based on weight. But even if the specific gravities were all equal, a 4% decrease in total volume does not equate to a 4% increase in a specific ingredient in a dilute solution since milk is mostly water.

It would be 100/96 * %carbs.
 
I think with most things, carbs or fats are not always the problem. Too many of the wrong kinds are. I think it all comes down to what your goals are. Less calories are not always good Your body starts thinking you are starving and starts storing.
 
If you don't drink much milk, I'd guess that the fat content doesn't matter. Like you say, it's a drop in your total bucket. I drink a lot of milk, though, so I stick to low fat.
 
My wife drinks white water (skim) so guess what I get. Look at the expiration date on skim sometime if you'd like proof there's nothing in it to go bad. LOL
 
About the only milk I use is heavy cream, mainly for coffee creamer and cappuccino. Once in a while I'll whip some up as a topping, as well.

As for skim, 1%, 2%, and so forth, why bother? You're taking out the only part of the milk that makes it worth drinking.

-Rich
 
RJM62 said:
As for skim, 1%, 2%, and so forth, why bother? You're taking out the only part of the milk that makes it worth drinking.
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Agree with that! I put half-and-half in coffee and tea, over cereal and over fruit. Why bother with watered down milk?
 
As I get older, I find myself completely lactose intolerant. This old Wisconsin boy is devastated!:mad:
 
Sac Arrow said:
I'm not much of a milk drinker at all. The only time I drink it is in a latte or a rare occasional mocha, and I always order nonfat. Figure less calories = better.

Which, makes sense, BUT I eat lots of cheese, and I love butter. Let's say I have a nonfat latte expresso drink in the morning, and have a couple of double cheeseburgers for lunch later on. Doesn't the avoided fat content of the milk pale in comparison to four slices of cheese?

Sort of like the person that orders a triple cheeseburger, extra large fries and a diet coke.

And I don't have a fat phobia. I have a carb phobia.
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Heart specialists make their living off that type of diet, nice and greasy.
 
Jimmy cooper said:
Heart specialists make their living off that type of diet, nice and greasy.
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Nope. They make their money off the standard american diet of processed grains and sugar. Fat doesn't make you fat or clog your arteries.
 
That's exactly true. The bad artery clogging cholesterol is manufactured by the body, primarily by tropical oils and certain additives that contain them.
 
Here's an interesting exchange that occurred this morning while I was getting coffee (latte regular milk thank you.)

Lady: I'd like a small mocha please.

Coffee girl: The smallest size we have is a medium.

Sac: Wait a minute? What sizes do you have?

Coffee girl: Medium and large.

Am I the only one that sees the problem with that logic? (Doesn't medium imply there are a minimum of three sizes?)
 
They probably order and stock only medium and large paper cups, in which case it is correct, sorta.
 
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