NPRM Cessna refracts... David White what say ye?

Jeanie

Jeanie

Pattern Altitude
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
2,239
Location
Alpine, TX
Display Name
Display name:
Jeanie
NPRM Cessna retracts... David White what say ye?

*** The FAA has issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) for select Cessna retractable gear models (182, 210, and 303) that was prompted by a report of a cockpit fire that appeared to originate from the area of the landing gear's hydraulic power pack system. The NPRM, issued on Sep. 11, 2012, would affect nearly 3,000 airplanes of U.S. registry and require inspection of the aircraft’s hydraulic power pack wiring for correct installation. To view the NPRM, go to http://go.usa.gov/rtCG. Comments on this proposed Airworthiness Directive (AD) must be received by Oct. 26, 2012.
 
Last edited:
Jeanie said:
that was prompted by a report of a cockpit fire that appeared to originate from the area of the landing gear's hydraulic power pack system.
Click to expand...

Sounds somewhat familiar. I heard it happened to the world's youngest CP-ASEL
 
I can't believe they'd issue a whole AD affecting thousands on aircraft on the basis of one fire. The overreaction even for the FAA.
 
Besides, re-fracs are my fracing business...


(inside joke for 6Y9 attendees)
 
steingar said:
I can't believe they'd issue a whole AD affecting thousands on aircraft on the basis of one fire. The overreaction even for the FAA.
Click to expand...

EMERGENCY SAFETY AD,,,, OMG down the whole fleet.

fire? Smoke? I think I smell a lawyer.
 
DavidWhite said:
Pure dumb luck is the only thing that kept the 210 I was flying from catching on fire.
Click to expand...

But do you know if this was a rash of incidents, or an isolated example? Do we get to name the AD after you? Pretty impressive for a teenager.
 
steingar said:
But do you know if this was a rash of incidents, or an isolated example? Do we get to name the AD after you? Pretty impressive for a teenager.
Click to expand...

Wow so this kid has done the following in his brief aviation career.

1. Commercial Pilot License
2. Faked being an amateur and took a discovery flight while in California
3. Almost died in a Cessna 210 and may have an AD named after him

What's next?

Fighter pilot?
First single manned warp speed aircraft pilot?
Trans-Atlantic flight with Martha King?
 
LJS1993 said:
Wow so this kid has done the following in his brief aviation career.

1. Commercial Pilot License
2. Faked being an amateur and took a discovery flight while in California
3. Almost died in a Cessna 210 and may have an AD named after him

What's next?

Fighter pilot?
First single manned warp speed aircraft pilot?
Trans-Atlantic flight with Martha King?
Click to expand...

CFI, I believe.
 
i though the event referenced in the NPRM was a different one from what David experienced.
 
LJS1993 said:
Wow so this kid has done the following in his brief aviation career.

1. Commercial Pilot License
2. Faked being an amateur and took a discovery flight while in California
3. Almost died in a Cessna 210 and may have an AD named after him

What's next?

Fighter pilot?
First single manned warp speed aircraft pilot?
Trans-Atlantic flight with Martha King?
Click to expand...

David is indeed a most impressive young man. I would just hope he could find a more winsome lady companion for that cross-oceanic voyage.
 
Jeanie said:
~~~~~Then what caused the fire, I guess I've forgotten.
Click to expand...

The hydraulic power pack realized the pressure in the system was dropping, so it kicked on and ran for atleast 10 minutes. There was no fire, if there was the hydraulic mist (it wasn't smoke, i found this out later. Thats why it burned my eyes, nose, and tbroat)in the cockpit would have ignited and I wouldn't be here right now. The mechanics said it actually got hot enough that it could have caused a fire. Why it did not, I do not know.

Although, it would have made a hell of a thread on PoA!
 
I think the AD is aimed towards a 172RG that a student and an instructor were flying and caught on fire. They both survived, but barely.
 
The AD is because of an incident in a 172RG but covers 182RG, 210 And 303 but not the 172RG. It's the FAA so go figure. Don
 
DavidWhite said:
The hydraulic power pack realized the pressure in the system was dropping, so it kicked on and ran for atleast 10 minutes. There was no fire, if there was the hydraulic mist (it wasn't smoke, i found this out later. Thats why it burned my eyes, nose, and tbroat)in the cockpit would have ignited and I wouldn't be here right now. The mechanics said it actually got hot enough that it could have caused a fire. Why it did not, I do not know.

Although, it would have made a hell of a thread on PoA!
Click to expand...

It wasn't your time yet.
 
steingar said:
David is indeed a most impressive young man. I would just hope he could find a more winsome lady companion for that cross-oceanic voyage.
Click to expand...

Hey Martha could tell him all kinds of cool stories about her early days. It could lead to a good experience.
 
steingar said:
I can't believe they'd issue a whole AD affecting thousands on aircraft on the basis of one fire. The overreaction even for the FAA.
Click to expand...
Just make sure to remember this when they whine about the sequestration. I'm quite certain by now that large parts of FAA have nothing to do while drawing handsome salaries. The story of the box rule near PDX is a great example of unnecessary meddling, too.

Edit: David says the AD may be for a real fire.
 
Last edited:
Yeah, this wasn't prompted by my little jaunt. AFAIK there wasn't any involvement since nothing got bent.
 
LJS1993 said:
Wow so this kid has done the following in his brief aviation career.

1. Commercial Pilot License
2. Faked being an amateur and took a discovery flight while in California
3. Almost died in a Cessna 210 and may have an AD named after him

What's next?

Fighter pilot?
First single manned warp speed aircraft pilot?
Trans-Atlantic flight with Martha King?
Click to expand...
If you can make it across the pond wih Martha King without blowing your brains out, you're Chuck Yeager in my book..
 
I thought David's had something to do with a simple rubber / plastic O-Ring (in the end)?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top