Near runway incursion..

Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by bob1234, May 25, 2017.

  1. bob1234

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    So this happened to me recently at KCPR...
    I was cleared to taxi from Atlantic Aviation to Runway 3 via taxiway A at KCPR. While
    taxiing, I was urgently told to stop by ground control and immediately complied. I had ended
    up on A5 by mistake and came very close to crossing the hold short line onto runway 03/21 as
    an aircraft was on short final for runway 3 instead of making the left turn onto A as
    instructed. The Airport diagram was displayed with safe taxi information on the aircraft's
    EFB at the time of the occurance, but I was not referencing it at the time as I should have
    been. This incident could have been prevented with proper use of the taxi diagram and safe taxi feature on the iPad. So obviously pretty significant and thankfully the controller was paying attention otherwise it could have been ugly with the aircraft on approach to runway 3 at the time....Despite all his, I was not given a phone number. I did file an ASRS, but is there anything else I could expect from this or does the lack of phone number indicate no further action can be taken?
     
  2. MAKG1

    MAKG1 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    No further action is LIKELY, but even if you do get some, I really doubt you'll get anything worse than some training required. Which you can do anyway if you like.

    More likely, you're just never going to do that again (right?) and everyone knows it.
     
  3. bob1234

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    Yep...pretty much guarenteed it won't happen again. The main lesson is never let your guard down. I've been flying professionally for 8 years and several thousand hours and had yet to come across a situation that got ATC ticked off at me let alone an incursion/pilot deviation, but I came very close to screwing the pooch really bad on this one...A landing jet hitting an aircraft that strayed onto the runway can prove to be fatal for everyone involved (like the US Air 737 that slammed into a Skywest Metro at LAX in the 90s..that was an ATC screw up, but still relevent)
     
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    You always have to be alert when taxiing around.

    My PPL checkride was at a sleepy Charlie with two runways (I trained at an uncontrolled field). As I was taxiing out, following instructions from the tower, the DPE yelled "Stop!" I obligingly stood on the brakes, as I couldn't see the plane approaching from my right side which didn't stop (it was hidden by the Cessna's wing). Mr. Examiner had a brief, terse conversation with the tower then we went off to make me a real pilot.

    Constant vigilance. Eyes outside. Head on a swivel. It all applies, all the time, and cannot be replaced by electronics in the cockpit (certified or not).
     
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    Thanks for sharing. It helps others visualize what happened and could help a mistake for occurring..
     
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    I'm guessing you wouldn't have actually taxied onto the runway. The hold bars and the big white on red 3/21 don't look any different there at A5 then they do at the end or any other intersection. You shouldn't hear anything else. It's a requirement that they tell you if they are going to violate you.
     
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    Same here, I'd assume that ALL of us pays enough attention to the taxiway to NOT cross the dang hold-short lines or venture past the BIG HONKING RED SIGNS with white rwy numbers on them.
    Short of them putting up gates at the hold short lines (LOL), I don't think we can actually physically prevent a rwy incursion. :)

    Thanks for sharing. Now go and sin no more! :)