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Vishing (phishing using AI to present voices you think you know.)
Apparently there are a multitude of ways to dupe you but essentially, know that even a phone call with a voice you recognize is no longer safe. (My investment guy won't do a thing til we talk on the phone.....so we are going to have to come up with a codeword or something I guess.
I think the advice often given in the past applies even more now: Do not answer calls from unrecognized numbers....now we might say in addition, do not take action (including giving information) based upon any phone call.
Thanks, AI.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
I think the advice often given in the past applies even more now: Do not answer calls from unrecognized numbers....now we might say in addition, do not take action (including giving information) based upon any phone call.
Thanks, AI.
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Phone numbers can also be easily spoofed. I dunno about you, but I get several calls a week from numbers purporting to be from the same local exchange that I'm in. Once I got a call that said it was from my own number.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Vishing (phishing using AI to present voices you think you know.)
Apparently there are a multitude of ways to dupe you but essentially, know that even a phone call with a voice you recognize is no longer safe. (My investment guy won't do a thing til we talk on the phone.....so we are going to have to come up with a codeword or something I guess.
I think the advice often given in the past applies even more now: Do not answer calls from unrecognized numbers....now we might say in addition, do not take action (including giving information) based upon any phone call.
Thanks, AI.
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It's funny how technology is bringing us back full circle - where soon only an in-person handshake will be considered a safe and legitimate transaction, like people used to do a thousand years ago.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
… even a phone call with a voice you recognize is no longer safe. (My investment guy won't do a thing til we talk on the phone.....so we are going to have to come up with a codeword or something I guess.
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Hmm. Interesting. When I moved most of my investments to Fidelity some years ago I set up voice ID with them. I had forgotten that when I had a need to call and talk to a human being a few weeks ago. After a few initial prompts, the system said “we need you to speak a little more. Please say your name and SSN again.” I did and it immediately said “ID verified” and connected me to a human. No PIN, no security question; no hell to prove I am who I say I am. Painless. I hope vhishing doesn’t kill that.
 
sarangan said:
It's funny how technology is bringing us back full circle - where soon only an in-person handshake will be considered a safe and legitimate transaction, like people used to do a thousand years ago.
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Guess you never watched "Mission: Impossible", huh? :oops:
 
DaleB said:
Guess you never watched "Mission: Impossible", huh?
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Good point! In the old Mission: Impossible television series one couldn't even trust the in-person person! The rubber face masks that they used were great...they even, somehow, modified the teeth! Ahh. Those were the days. :p
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Thanks, AI.
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On a recent Armchair podcast on scams they discussed how scammers got a mom and son on the phone separately, pretending they had each kidnapped, then used pieces of each conversation to play on the other line. No AI required. People really do need a "code word" it seems.
 
Jim_R said:
Phone numbers can also be easily spoofed. I dunno about you, but I get several calls a week from numbers purporting to be from the same local exchange that I'm in. Once I got a call that said it was from my own number.
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Same here, but that is not new. I received a call from my own number circa 2013. It may have been earlier than that. I just remember that it was a few years before we sold the house where that happened.
I didn't answer it but later some friends on my street asked me why I called them then hung up immediately when they answered.
 
JOhnH said:
Same here, but that is not new. I received a call from my own number circa 2013. It may have been earlier than that. I just remember that it was a few years before we sold the house where that happened.
I didn't answer it but later some friends on my street asked me why I called them then hung up immediately when they answered.
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Yes, phone number spoofing has been a thing for a long time.
 
Mahneuvers said:
On a recent Armchair podcast on scams they discussed how scammers got a mom and son on the phone separately, pretending they had each kidnapped, then used pieces of each conversation to play on the other line. No AI required. People really do need a "code word" it seems.
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We've had one with our kids since they were in grade school (our youngest is in his mid 30s now).

As for phone number spoofing... I had to explain that to my mother when the "IRS" called her. "But it was a Washington DC number!" Yeah. I can have a legitimate phone number in any area code in the country in a couple of minutes. I can fake one on an outgoing call even quicker. So can anyone else.
 
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"I told him 'that's okay. We already have one... it's quite nice.'"
 
Jim_R said:
Phone numbers can also be easily spoofed. I dunno about you, but I get several calls a week from numbers purporting to be from the same local exchange that I'm in. Once I got a call that said it was from my own number.
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Only nuts talk to themselves... :) :):p
 
Decades ago, I remember seeing TV commercials that showed a woman gaining access to her apartment by saying, "It's me." It immediately occurred to me that this "security" measure could be easily defeated with a portable tape recorder.
 
Bob Noel said:
and how many people get that reference?

(without using google)
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My name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport, verify me.

"Wait. A computer matched HER... with HIM?!? I don't think so."

"I cannot kill my friend." (turns to assistant) "Kill my friend."

"I want a Winnebago."

What a great movie that was. I remembered the quotes, but I had to go to Google to remember the name of the movie. :rofl: Sneakers!
 
flyingcheesehead said:
My name is Werner Brandes. My voice is my passport, verify me.

"Wait. A computer matched HER... with HIM?!? I don't think so."

"I cannot kill my friend." (turns to assistant) "Kill my friend."

"I want a Winnebago."

What a great movie that was. I remembered the quotes, but I had to go to Google to remember the name of the movie. :rofl: Sneakers!
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But the phrase was "my voice is my password" (Not passport).
But I'm probably missing something, as usual.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
What you're missing is that it really was "passport":

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You appear to be correct, but when I call Charles Schwab the attendant requires me to say "At Schwab, my voice is my password". So it was an honest mistake, given the typo I was responding to.
 
JOhnH said:
You appear to be correct, but when I call Charles Schwab the attendant requires me to say "At Schwab, my voice is my password". So it was an honest mistake, given the typo I was responding to.
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What you quoted was a post of mine that was entirely about quotes from the movie Sneakers, hence my confusion. ;)
 
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