[NA]Home Automation - What are you uisng?[NA]

Uhhhhh. . .let me think about it? Someone I don't know, but who can fairly easily ascertain who I am, is asking for a description of the electronic holes in my home security (AKA consumer grade home automation). . . .should I post my b'day and SSN, too?
Well... you're not paranoid if they really are out to get you. Personally, my home automation is pretty secure. I suppose, if someone knew what I named my lights, they could scream loudly through the window with an amplified megaphone and turn on my hallway lights or turn up my thermostat. I am not going to lose sleep over it.
 
That's one of the reasons I went with wifi switches, even though they only control my exterior lights, it's still nice to known it's WPA2.

I guess you could sit around my house for ages sniffing packets or brut forcing pins to try to get in, but between the amount of traffic on my network my pin, where I live, my farmer neighbors and my dog, you're going to have a welcoming comity well before you get enough packets to get into my network, and any drop and retrieve packet sniffer is going to run out of batteries right quick between the cold and my lack of wifi traffic.

Seemed like the 900ish MHz stuff just transmits in the clear right? So anyone with a reciever could snag the commands for your garage or security or locks??

Not 100% sure? Is that the case??
 
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Uhhhhh. . .let me think about it? Someone I don't know, but who can fairly easily ascertain who I am, is asking for a description of the electronic holes in my home security (AKA consumer grade home automation). . . .should I post my b'day and SSN, too?

So you're saying a digital recording of you saying, "Alexa turn off the alarm" is all we need? Hehe.

Joking but many security experts say to never ever use voice recognition for alarm disarming. And I see people brag about it all the time. So easy to defeat their system then, it's not even slightly funny.
 
That's one of the reasons I went with wifi switches, even though they only control my exterior lights, it's still nice to known it's WPA2.

I guess you could sit around my house for ages sniffing packets to try to get in, but between the amount of traffic on my network, where I live, my farmer neighbors and my dog, you're going to have a welcoming comity well before you get enough packets to get into my network, and any drop and retrieve packet sniffer is going to run out of batteries right quick between the cold and my lack of wifi traffic.

Seemed like the 900ish MHz stuff just transmits in the clear right? So anyone with a reciever could snag the commands for your garage or security or locks??

Not 100% sure? Is that the case??
My garage door is on Wifi, but not controlled by Wink. Wink will generate an alert I'd it is open more than 15 minutes. The rest of it is thermostat and lights for me. I am not too worried.
 
I just got an Echo for Christmas. It's pretty cool for playing music, and maybe answering some trivia questions. But I haven't really figured out what else it can do to make itself useful.
https://qz.com/880541/amazons-amzn-alexa-accidentally-ordered-a-ton-of-dollhouses-across-san-diego/

On the morning of Jan. 5, California television channel CW-6 was reporting on the little girl’s purchases when it accidentally caused a slew of other Alexas to also attempt shopping sprees. During the on-air news segment, TV anchor Jim Patton said, “I love the little girl saying, ‘Alexa ordered me a dollhouse.'” Hearing the statement, Amazon Echoes in television viewers’ homes mistook the remark as a command, and many viewers complained that their personal assistants likewise tried to place orders for dollhouses.
 
You've given me an idea... and one that is easy for me since I have my own water well, just need to power off the well pump and the system will lose pressure before too much damage can be done.

Thanks.
Including a pump shut-off is the way to go with a well since there are failure modes which leave the pump running against a closed valve or other blockage since the pressure switch is calling for water. I had it happen with a frozen line between the well and the pressure tank. Obviously all failures can't be planned for without spending a ton of money but a relay tied to a shut-off valve is pretty simple. Run timers are also handy in this application since a well shouldn't run continuously for hours.
 
Yeah, that is a feature I will never use... sometimes technology gets misapplied. Kids placing orders was only a matter of time. I hadn't heard about the proxy ordering by television, but I suspect there was some confirmation required that didn't happen, but still funny.
The article says that you can turn on a feature that would require entering a 4-digit code for purchases. But then you would need to walk over to the Echo and enter it! Or maybe you could speak the numbers...
 
The article says that you can turn on a feature that would require entering a 4-digit code for purchases. But then you would need to walk over to the Echo and enter it! Or maybe you could speak the numbers...
You would have to speak or enter it through the app. Echo only has two buttons.
 
You would have to speak or enter it through the app. Echo only has two buttons.
If you spoke the numbers, you would need to be out of earshot of the kids in the house or they would catch on real fast, LOL.
 
If you spoke the numbers, you would need to be out of earshot of the kids in the house or they would catch on real fast, LOL.
Right... not every idea is a good one and placing orders through the Echo is one I rank up there with New Coke. It is creating more problems than it solves.
 
Smart thing hub came today, should have a couple of light bulbs tomorrow.
 
This little guy got more than he bargained for from an echo:

 
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After trying the Insteon stuff, a hub with two light bulbs, I found it to not be dependable. About half the time I could not turn the lights on or off with the app or the Echo.

I ordered a Samsung SmartThings Hub and a couple of light bulbs to replace the Insteon stuff. Early indications are good, we'll see how it does in the long term. The app is okay, but there is no native web application. There is a guy that wrote a web app that works.
 
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