Mystery airplane

[RalphInCA]

Anyone know what this is?

 

[champ driver]

BF-108

 

[Fearless Tower]

Messerschmitt BF108

 

[pbramlett]

Isnt that what Hendley and Blythe flew in "The Great Escape"?

 

[David7700]

Sure is!! My favorite movie.

 

[N801BH]

Anyone know what this is?

Kool plane.......

So, where is the N number on it ????

 

[kyleb]

The answers are correct. The airplane is an ME or BF-108. But that isn't what they used in The Great Escape...

They used a Bucker:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bücker_Bü_181

A pair of -108's did get screentime in "The Longest Day" and in a few other movies where they stood in for ME-109's.

 

[Graueradler]

Looks like a Flugzeug to me.

 

[Velocity173]

Boeing Stearman

 

[overdrive148]

Is that on the ramp at Cable Airport? Looks familiar.

Also check out the chalk writing on the ground under the tail - says BF108

 

[Pilawt]

So, where is the N number on it ????

From this angle it's hidden under the horizontal stabilizer. Here's another photo:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Messerschmitt-Bf-108-Taifun/2023763/L

 

[RalphInCA]

Is that on the ramp at Cable Airport? Looks familiar.

Also check out the chalk writing on the ground under the tail - says BF108

Yep. Was at the Airshow today.

 

[N801BH]

From this angle it's hidden under the horizontal stabilizer. Here's another photo:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Messerschmitt-Bf-108-Taifun/2023763/L

Thanks.....

Altho.. I am not sure that is FAA legal lettering............

 

[RyanShort1]

Thanks.....

Altho.. I am not sure that is FAA legal lettering............

I'd bet it is or pilots would refuse to take it to airshows. I took a vintage aircraft to an airshow once for a group I was flying with and the guys from the FSDO made a point to encourage us to freshen up the paint on the N-number.

 

[kyleb]

From this angle it's hidden under the horizontal stabilizer. Here's another photo:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Messerschmitt-Bf-108-Taifun/2023763/L

You're not supposed to put it under the horizontal stab. Here's the AC covering that (see page 8):

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC 45-2D.pdf

 

[N801BH]

You're not supposed to put it under the horizontal stab. Here's the AC covering that (see page 8):

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC 45-2D.pdf

That was one of my concerns...

The font size seems to be illegal too...

 

[Pilawt]

You're not supposed to put it under the horizontal stab. Here's the AC covering that (see page 8):

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC 45-2D.pdf

Seen "Fifi" lately?

The font size seems to be illegal too...

Not according to 14 CFR 45.22(b) -- Two inches high is sufficient.

 

[kyleb]

Seen "Fifi" lately?

I ain't telling anybody what to do, just pointing out what the FAA has written on the subject.

 

[N801BH]

Seen "Fifi" lately?

Not according to 14 CFR 45.22(b) -- Two inches high is sufficient.

How fast can that plane fly???

 

[cessna182b]

Messerschmitt BF108

From the FAA Aircraft Registry N2231 is indeed a Messerschmitt BF108 - 1942 model. If airplanes could talk, no doubt it would have some interesting stories to tell. Another item of interest is that production of the BF108 was moved to occupied France in 1942 - and the French continued producing them after the war as the Nord Pingouin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Pingouin

Dave.

 

[Pilawt]

How fast can that plane fly???

Bf.108 cruises 140 KTAS with a 240-hp engine.

 

[N801BH]

Bf.108 cruises 140 KTAS with a 240-hp engine.

Small N numbers should be ok then...

 

[Velocity173]

I'd say the BF-108 falls under the definition of Antique for N number requirements.

 

[N801BH]

I'd say the BF-108 falls under the definition of Antique for N number requirements.

Agreed....

Is that reg for 2" numbers or 3".. I forgot

 

[Pilawt]

The airplane is an ME or BF-108.

From the FAA Aircraft Registry N2231 is indeed a Messerschmitt BF108 - 1942 model.

Yes, technically it's Bf.108.

The "Bf" comes from "BFW" (Bayerische Flugzeugwerk), the company from which came both the 108 and 109. In 1938 the company was re-organized and re-named as Messerschmitt AG. Designs originating thereafter carried the "Me" prefix, but under the RLM nomenclature system the 108 and 109 (and 110) kept the "Bf". But the distinction was not strictly observed by either side during the war, and there are numerous references to "Me.109" (but not so much the 108) in official records.

 

[Pilawt]

Is that reg for 2" numbers or 3".. I forgot

It's two inches for aircraft over 30 years old per 45.22 (b).

It's confusing because section 45.29 requires 3" marks on gliders and certain experimentals (less than 30 years old).

 

[Henning]

Thanks.....

Altho.. I am not sure that is FAA legal lettering............

The FAA doesn't particularly fuss with historic marking planes, they allow a good bit of latitude. If the required markings exist, they are pretty much good with it. I have never seen the FAA come across as pricks over little things like this.