MUST I like eating out? Is it a law or something?

Well, as one who has to eat out on the road a lot, I can honestly say that we don't mind you not eating out either Rich. In fact, we kind of appreciate it. :D
 
Maxmosbey said:
I'm glad you feel better now. I know tons of people just like that. They find it incredible that everyone isn't just like them. Whenever I go on vacation there has to be at least one person who has been there and they have to tell me all the places I have to go and all the things I have to see, and of course, all the "best" places to eat. Just smile and do your own thing Rich. Don't let other people tell you how to live.
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I think that's the part of it that has me scratching my whiskers. I don't try to impose things that I happen to like on others. I don't pressure my friends or family to fly ultralights, listen to the same music as I do, fish for bass, drink cappuccino, or pour hot sauce all over everything they eat. Neither does learning that someone else doesn't enjoy the same things as I do elicit so much as a shrug from me.

As we used to say in Brooklyn Italian, "Sau-seege his own."

-Rich
 
Ghery said:
I haven't been to Cal-Neva in YEARS. Still in business?
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Neither have I, with good reason.

If it's out of business, I obviously haven't missed it....

EDIT: It appears to still be around. Though I can't imagine why; I'm certainly never setting foot in there again. One trip over I-80 with the heaves is quite enough, thankyouverymuch. http://www.clubcalneva.com/
 
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After one has worked on many restaurant HVAC systems and watched mice run around above ceiling tiles leaving feces everywhere. Everytime the doors open the tiles raise and guess what ends up in your food. Slime on evaporator coils/condensate pans. Worker's handle money or themselves in the bathroom then raw uncooked food items. Dropped utensils/plates/bowls then use them and serve. The reason most don't get caught is because they know when the HD is coming and do it hidden from customers.

We rarely eat out...maybe the occasional fly-in or fly-away family vacation. We grow a big garden, can and freeze food. We plan most all meals before going shopping, we buy a lot of groceries and cook/cleanup together as a family. We eat most leftovers or take them for our lunches. We compost all fruit and vegetable scraps. Restaurant, medical, insurance and movie theater businesses here are thriving. RV's, four wheelers and boats everywhere with many rarely used. Most people like to be seen, spend money, drive the kids to every after school activity, dislike or have no desire to learn to cook or clean and hate staying home where they may see something that needs to be done. Wonder why many don't fly or are unable to afford it? Unless one is rich most of us have to sacrifice a little to fly.
 
RV10flyer said:
After one has worked on many restaurant HVAC systems and watched mice run around above ceiling tiles leaving feces everywhere. Everytime the doors open the tiles raise and guess what ends up in your food. Slime on evaporator coils/condensate pans. Worker's handle money or themselves in the bathroom then raw uncooked food items. Dropped utensils/plates/bowls then use them and serve. The reason most don't get caught is because they know when the HD is coming and do it hidden from customers.

We rarely eat out...maybe the occasional fly-in or fly-away family vacation. We grow a big garden, can and freeze food. We plan most all meals before going shopping, we buy a lot of groceries and cook/cleanup together as a family. We eat most leftovers or take them for our lunches. We compost all fruit and vegetable scraps. Restaurant, medical, insurance and movie theater businesses here are thriving. RV's, four wheelers and boats everywhere with many rarely used. Most people like to be seen, spend money, drive the kids to every after school activity, dislike or have no desire to learn to cook or clean and hate staying home where they may see something that needs to be done. Wonder why many don't fly or are unable to afford it? Unless one is rich most of us have to sacrifice a little to fly.
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I used to be friends with the city health inspector and he said pretty much the same thing as you.:D
 
Dining is not the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread title.

I can't be the only one?
 
Many restaurants I don't like. But, when I go out, I have a simple rule. Eat what I can't get at home. Either because the rest of the family doesn't like it, or because it is out of my wheelhouse in expertise or time I have available. I love a good 18 hour smoked brisket, or sushi, or my recent favorite was grilled Hawaiian Onaga. There are just some things that the pros can do better and that is why I go to them. I agree, no point in having it if you can do it at home just as easily or better. (Beef Pho, house pastrami, real gyros, deep dish pizza, fresh cut french fries, etc).
 
MAKG1 said:
Neither have I, with good reason.

If it's out of business, I obviously haven't missed it....

EDIT: It appears to still be around. Though I can't imagine why; I'm certainly never setting foot in there again. One trip over I-80 with the heaves is quite enough, thankyouverymuch. http://www.clubcalneva.com/
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I was in there about a year ago and it is nearly out of business. Just some slots. All the table games are gone. It is a shell of what it once was. It used to be a decent place to stay, when I was skiing Northstar.
 
All I want to say is, I thoroughly enjoyed this rant!

RJM62 said:
I don't like eating out.

It's not a major hatred sort of thing, mind you. It's not something that fills me with dread. I just don't care for it. I'll do it when I'm meeting a friend who's passing through town, or if some family member is silly enough to want to celebrate some major milestone in their life in a restaurant; but eating in restaurants is something I endure, rather than enjoy.

There are reasons for this.

One is that for all of my working life until recently, I had jobs in which I worked in the field and often had to meet with clients at restaurants, and somewhere along the line it stopped being fun. I'll do it when I have to, but I would never go to a full-service restaurant specifically for the experience of doing so.

Another reason is that I'm a pretty good cook and actually can cook most stuff I've eaten at restaurants better than they can. I also like spicy food, and it's a rare restaurant that can match my taste for Scoville units. And if you ask for a bottle of hot sauce at most places, all they have is wimpy stuff (if they have any at all).

The unwillingness of some restaurants to substitute is also annoying. I have diabetes and have to take it easy on the carbs, but most restaurants pile the plates with potatoes, pasta, rice, etc., and many don't like doing substitutions, or make you pay some ridiculous amount like $3.00 for a side of string beans instead of the twelve pounds of mashed potatoes that come with the meal.

I also hate waiting, and eating out is mainly about waiting. Wait to be seated. Wait for the server to bring you the menu. Wait again for the server to take your order. Wait for each of the courses. Wait for the check. Wait for the server to come back with the charge slip. I hate it.

And then there are dress codes. When I sold my consulting business, I donated my ties and all of my dress clothes to Goodwill, along with any pants that were made of anything except denim, any socks that weren't white, and any shirt that had an actual collar unless it was made of flannel. I wear blue jeans and pullover shirts, white socks, and the same model of comfortable black shoes that only Payless sells (I buy them two pairs at a time when they're on sale) that I've been wearing for about the past six years, everywhere I go.

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If my wardrobe is not acceptable at some place, then I don't go. I have attended weddings, church services, court proceedings, and funerals dressed in my chosen style of attire, and I have never had a bride, groom, preacher, judge, or corpse complain about it. So why would I dress up to please some Maitre D? Not gonna happen.

Finally, I've had occasion to see the insides of a lot of restaurant kitchens. Nuff said about that.

So suffice it to say that I don't like eating out, and I have my reasons. I do, however, like eating at buffets more than at full-service restaurants because buffets dispense with enough of the things I hate about eating out that if the food is decent, I can actually enjoy the experience. In fact, a good buffet is about the only kind of eating out that I'll do for the sheer joy of doing so.

Is that a crime?

I mean, one would think that I have a right to not enjoy eating out, except at buffets. But nooooooooo. My whole family and most of my friends seem to be conspiring to force me to eat out at every restaurant they find -- except buffets, which they know I like, but which they can't accept. They seem determined to change this by dragging my sorry old assets to every new full-service restaurant they come across.

Don't get me wrong: I appreciate the fact that they still like me enough to want to share these great finds with me. And hey, as long as they're paying, at least I get a freebie meal out of it; so it's not all bad.

But why is it so difficult for them to accept that there are people like me who don't enjoy having to get dressed up and burn gas in order to wait repeatedly, and pay, to select from a limited menu, food that they can make better at home?

Am I the only one?

Is there some rule I am breaking?

Is it a law?

:rolleyes2:

Thanks. I feel better now.

-Rich
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RV10flyer said:
After one has worked on many restaurant HVAC systems and watched mice run around above ceiling tiles leaving feces everywhere. Everytime the doors open the tiles raise and guess what ends up in your food. Slime on evaporator coils/condensate pans. Worker's handle money or themselves in the bathroom then raw uncooked food items. Dropped utensils/plates/bowls then use them and serve. The reason most don't get caught is because they know when the HD is coming and do it hidden from customers.
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Ever done HVAC for a grocery store? ;)

Same thing.

And most of the processing plants on up the chain.
 
There are few places I'd rather eat than home.

And David, learn to like it and the skill will work for you.
 
I hate eating homes. Drywall is arguably carb free but too much calcium.
 
Clearly you have a bigger problem than not eating out if you are buying shoes from payless and wearing the same clothes everyday.
 
Nothing wrong with dinner or lunch out once in a while, but I also prefer eating at home, and cooking what I want, and properly, and cleanly prepared. No worries Rich. My Dad was on the board of health where I grew up, so I've heard some horror stories too. :eek:
 
MultiMediaWill said:
Clearly you have a bigger problem than not eating out if you are buying shoes from payless and wearing the same clothes everyday.
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Payless or not, the shoes just happen to be the best-fitting, best-wearing, most-comfortable shoes I've ever worn. The one below has a good two years of hard use on it, and other than the minor scuffing on the leather, is in almost as good a condition as when I bought the pair new.

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The soles are resistant to oil and everything else one might find on a hangar floor (or in a pasture). I regularly stomp through puddles, go hiking and fishing, climb bridges and such to take pictures, fly ultralights (where the shoes double as brake pads), and work in the garden in those shoes, and they hold up just fine.

I also have a newer pair in service that I wear to more "formal" occasions, so to speak. Same model. Just a newer pair. And I have two pairs in reserve to use as future replacements. Here's the box label from one of the reserve pairs in case you want to buy a pair:

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-Rich
 
In one of the Cold War submarine documentary books there's a description of one of the brilliant engineers.

He had a closet full of button down light blue short and long sleeve shirts, and navy blue pants and shorts, all the same black socks and he rotated three pair of black loafers, dress up, everyday, and mowing the lawn. As things wore out, he replaced them to always have spares.

He claimed there was no point in wasting time thinking about what he would wear every day.

Someone lent him a blue blazer for a meeting with the President once.

After reading that, I joked about doing it to Karen. She said (not that I believed her) that she wouldn't care. (This being the woman who's exceeding happy her new walk-in closet floor holds all of her shoes... as long as mine are kept to a 3' area. ) :)
 
If I recall correctly, the same sentiments applied to Steve Jobs too. Always the turtleneck and blue jeans. Rich, you keep some good company.
 
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