It occurred to me the other day I've never asked for a transition through military class D.
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
RotaryWingBob said:It occurred to me the other day I've never asked for a transition through military class D.
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
RotaryWingBob said:It occurred to me the other day I've never asked for a transition through military class D.
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
Nav8tor said:The controller called me out as traffic to them but I couldn’t hear them. I guess the controller was talking on both VHF and UHF. One by one the A-10s broke to the left and circled to land, all while I was flying by at the departure end. It was pretty cool to watch from the air.
I didn't realize there were any military class Bravos! You're sure that the primary airport there isn't San Diego Int'l?jkaduk said:Not Class D, but I fly through Miramar's class B frequently.
RotaryWingBob said:It occurred to me the other day I've never asked for a transition through military class D.
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
Ron Levy said:Should be no problem at all, including practice low approaches -- just don't touch down unless you have an appropriate military landing permit signed, sealed, and on board.
CJones said:Is it feasible to get a landing permit for a civilian plane to land at a military base to visit someone based there? My father-in-law is USN Lt. Cmdr Ret. if that would add any 'pull' to the situation.
-Chris
Gary said:Sure Bob, all the time!
Willow Grove, Dover, McGuire, Oceana, Paxtuent... never been an issue. Seems as though the military controllers are often more helpfun than the civilian.
Gary
lancefisher said:Prolly bored.
There are two primaries, KSAN and Miramar. Miramar is class B from the surface to 10K. SAN is from the surface to 3300. Then there's a corridor so you can fly over the top. If you look carefully the mode C veil is not a perfect circle.gprellwitz said:I didn't realize there were any military class Bravos! You're sure that the primary airport there isn't San Diego Int'l?
Edit: Looking at the chart, It's sure confusing. It looks like there are two primary airports, both military, and the floor actually seems to rise to 4800 over KSAN. But KSAN doesn't seem to be the basis from which they determine the 30NM Mode C veil. Of course, this is all on a computer, since I don't have those sectionals handy.
RotaryWingBob said:It occurred to me the other day I've never asked for a transition through military class D.
Has anybody tried it, and did the tower give it to you?
RotaryWingBob said:Being a sadist, I was thinking about following the PA Turnpike on wednesday into NJ, and then the NJ Turnpike and I-95 into Delaware, just to watch all the traffic tieups
Thanks. learn something new every day. One thing I have to say for the ORD class B; it's relatively simple! For something like the East or West coast, they almost need to provide a 3-D model of the airspace!jkaduk said:There are two primaries, KSAN and Miramar. Miramar is class B from the surface to 10K. SAN is from the surface to 3300. Then there's a corridor so you can fly over the top. If you look carefully the mode C veil is not a perfect circle.
gprellwitz said:Thanks. learn something new every day. One thing I have to say for the ORD class B; it's relatively simple! For something like the East or West coast, they almost need to provide a 3-D model of the airspace!
I've always thought if you're talking to ATC, just ask them. If they have a problem giving you clearance, they will tell you. Sometimes, there are agreements in place that allow them to clear you through at a given altitude. Went through So Weymouth NAS many times (Class D) by just asking the tower. Of course, this was in their end days when "other" traffic was about all they got to talk to.rmciottijr said:Funny you say that Bob on Sat. I heard someone ask Philly if they could transition through Willow Grove and they gave them the ok. First I thought why are they asking they will never let them in. Second why are you asking Philly.
I agreee with Lance. Chances are slim but, it doesn't hurt to ask. Also, "pull" always helps. Both of your in-laws would then be part of the military family and might also be the ones who should "officially" asking.CJones said:Is it feasible to get a landing permit for a civilian plane to land at a military base to visit someone based there? My father-in-law is USN Lt. Cmdr Ret. if that would add any 'pull' to the situation.
-Chris
alaskaflyer said:Everything you ever wanted to know about civilian landing at air force bases, and then some.
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/10/afi10-1001/afi10-1001.pdf
It's relatively easy to obtain one for some purposes up here though I have never encountered one for purely pleasure/visiting purposes.