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Yep, it's that time. Checkride, tomorrow, 1p.m. I'm a little concerned about the timing. Sunset around these parts will be 1715ish. Anyone ever finished their checkrid in the dark? Just curious. I'm not fully expecting to finish tomorrow. But starting is better than nothing.
 
Well, then, time to drag out this one once again...
Captain Levy’s Checkride Advice

1. Relax and enjoy it. Nationwide, about 90% of applicants pass on the first try, so look around and see if you think you’re as good as 9 out of 10 other students. Also, your instructor must maintain a pass rate of at least 80% to get his ticket renewed, so he’s not going to send you up unless he’s pretty darn sure you’ll pass – otherwise, he has to find four other people to pass to make up for you, and that’s not always easy.

2. Go over with your instructor the logbooks of the aircraft you're going to use the day BEFORE the checkride to make sure it's all in order (annual, transponder checks, ELT ops and battery, 100-hour if rented, etc.). If the airplane's paper busts, so do you. Run a sample W&B, too – get the examiner’s weight when you make the appointment. If you weigh 200, and so does the examiner, don’t show up with a C-152 with full tanks and a 350 lb available cabin load – examiners can’t waive max gross weight limits.

3. Relax.

4. Rest up and get a good night's sleep the night before. Don't stay up "cramming."

5. Relax.

6. Read carefully the ENTIRE PTS including all the introductory material. Use the checklist in the front to make sure you take all the stuff you need -- papers and equipment. And the examiner’s fee UP FRONT (too much chance a disgruntled applicant will refuse to pay afterward) in the form demanded by the examiner is a “required document” from a practical, if not FAA, standpoint.

7. Relax.

8. You’re going to make a big mistake somewhere. The examiner knows this will happen, and it doesn’t have to end the ride. What’s important is not whether you make a mistake, but how you deal with it – whether you recover and move on without letting it destroy your flying. Figure out where you are now, how to get to where you want to be, and then do what it takes to get there. That will save your checkride today and your butt later on.

9. Relax.

10. You're going to make some minor mistakes. Correct them yourself in a timely manner "so the outcome of the maneuver is never seriously in doubt" and you'll be OK. If you start to go high on your first steep turn and start a correction as you approach 100 feet high but top out at 110 high while making a smooth correction back to the requested altitude, don't sweat -- nail the next one and you'll pass with "flying colors" (a naval term, actually). If you see the maneuver will exceed parameters and not be smoothly recoverable, tell the examiner and knock it off before you go outside those parameters, and then re-initiate. That shows great sense, if not great skill, and judgement is the most critical item on the checkride.

11. Relax.

12. During the oral, you don’t have to answer from memory anything you’d have time to look up in reality. You never need to memorize and know everything. Categorize material as:

a. Things you must memorize (i.e. emergency procedures, radio calls, airspace, etc).
b. Things you must know or have reasonable understanding of (i.e. interpreting weather codes, non-critical regs).
c. Things you know about but can look up and will have time to look up on the ground.

(Thanks to Mark Bourdeaux for this categorization.) So if the examiner asks you about currency, it’s OK to open the FAR book to 61.56 and 61.57 and explain them to him. But make sure you know where the answer is without reading the whole FAR/AIM cover-to-cover. On the other hand, for stuff you’d have to know RIGHT NOW (e.g., best glide speed for engine failure, etc.), you’d best not stumble or stutter – know that stuff cold. Also, remember that the examiner will use the areas your knowledge test report says you missed as focus points in the oral, so study them extra thoroughly.

13. Relax.

14. Avoid this conversation:
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?

Applicant - A: I have a #2, a mechanical, a red one...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: I also have an assortment of pens, and some highlighters...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: Yes.
Examiner - Thank you.
One of the hardest things to do when you’re nervous and pumped up is to shut up and answer the question. I've watched people talk themselves into a corner by incorrectly answering a question that was never asked, or by adding an incorrect appendix to the correct answer to the question that was. If the examiner wants more, he'll tell you.

15. Relax

16. Some questions are meant simply to test your knowledge, not your skill, even if they sound otherwise. If the examiner asks how far below the cloud deck you are, he is checking to see if you know the answer is “at least 500 feet,” not how good your depth perception is. He can’t tell any better than you can, and the only way to be sure is to climb up and see when you hit the bases, which for sure he won’t let you do.

17. Relax

18. Remember the first rule of Italian driving: "What's behind me is not important." Don't worry about how you did the last maneuver or question. If you didn't do it well enough, the examiner must notify you and terminate the checkride. If you are on the next one, forget the last one because it was good enough to pass. Focus on doing that next maneuver or answering the next question the best you can, because while it can still determine whether you pass or fail, the last one can’t anymore. If you get back to the office and he hasn't said you failed, smile to your friends as you walk in because you just passed.

19. Relax and enjoy your new license.

Ron Levy, ATP, CFI, Veteran of 11 license/rating checkrides, including 4 with FAA inspectors
 
Don't worry, you'll be done before dark.

Read Ron's advice. Then read it again. Then grab a beer and go relax.:thumbsup:
 
I can't top Captain Ron's advice, but I can agree with it. Read it a couple of times, and then go to bed early.

You will be done well before dark, and celebrating tomorrow night.
 
Thanks for the words. Don't think I'll have any issues, either. I spoke with my CFI for a pre check review and he asked me what part I was most aprehensive about. I told him making sure I get out of bed in time. (I've been night flying for work the past week) As far as the eval goes, there is no part of the PTS that when I look at it, I think "Hope he doesn't spend toooooo much time on that!" I'm sick of studying and waiting. Time to validate. Will update in approx. 28 hrs.
 
Good Luck. We're all counting on you....

Seriously have fun and Relax tomorrow
 
I think if I relax any more, I might just give the examiner a call and tell him to not bother showing up, just send the ticket to me. ;) Seriously, though. I've had plenty of checkrides in my life, this is just the first one for the FAA. What's the worst that could happen? Telling the 'ol lady I hooked and it'll cost another $400, that's it!
 
Having just done my check ride four weeks ago, I am a believer in Capt Leavy's advice. I also received one more good one. Don't forget:
Clearing turns, clearing turns, clearing turns, ...........

Good Luck!
 
Welp, after 2 days, 2.8 oral, 2.6 in the air, I am officially a PP-ASEL. Full write up to follow. I'm tired. Going to bed now.
 
Excellent! Congrats, and now let the real fun begin!
 
Alright, here we go.

Day 1: Weather in the Anchorage bowl has been CAVU for 2 weeks straight...untill Monday. 600-1/2 all day. The DPE gave me the option to start the oral and since I took the day off work, I figured I might as well make progress. So, we got started. He drilled me on EVERYTHING since we had nothing but time and nowhere to go. Only issue I had was I brain farted on a Class G airspace question on the sectional. Oh, well. Win some, lose some. Lots of systems and aeromed topics. Honestly, the 2.8 went by much faster than it sounds.

Day 2: Show time of 1200 got pushed back due to voting delays. Finally airborne at 1400. I flew the first two legs of my X-Cntry. I had possiblt the easiest GS check ever known to man. It took me 6 mins to go 12nm. He still made me use the whiz wheel just so he could see it. Oh, did I mention that I left my E6B in my bag...on the back seat. Quite tricky trying to get it out and not stray of course or altitude. After I overcame my own jackassery, we moved on to the hood work. I'm excited about instrument training cause that was the best part of the entire ride. Then the various airwork. No problems and all were well within limits. After that it was on to the landings. First was to be a normal landing. I had the most beautiful set up which was going to lead to my best landing ever. Yep, he called a go around on me 50ft from touchdown. Second was a soft field followed by a soft field takeoff. Both were not my best, but well within limits. Next was a no flap with a slip to landing. I screwed up the slip and went around. This was the closest I came to busting all day. He asked me what I didn't like about it and he said ok, next one is for the whole deal. I pulled if of reasonably well. Landed in a slight crab but nothing unsafe. Took off with a short field followed by a short field landing back at Elmendorf. The landing was delayed with 2 360's on downwind for arriving F-22's. Bet no everyone gets to see that on their checkride. The short field was SHORT. Probably the best I've done. The taxi back was quiet, but I had no doubts as to the outcome. I drug the airpalne back in the hangar and he did the paperwork. I left 20 mins later with a Temp Ticket. First pax will be my wife in a few days.
 
You'll be left seat AC in the E-3 before you know it...

Congrats!
 
Your ride definitely sounds like the longest I've heard of so far for private, but I'm glad to hear that you passed it just fine. It sounds like you were plenty prepared for it.
 
Mazel Tov! That sounds like a fantastic job on a pretty tricky ride! It was nice of the Raptors to come out to congratulate you.
 
2.8 hrs for a PP-ASEL oral??? I think mine was about 30 minutes if that. Glad you did well.

Note to Ron Levy. Add to your checkride advice checklist:

0) If the weather precludes flying portion of the checkride either decline any offers to do the oral anyway or fake a phone call and tell the examiner that you only have an hour but would do the oral if that's enough time.
 
I talked it over with my CFI and chief pilot at the club and they both said the long oral was due to him knowing we wern't flying and we had nothing but time. I was thinking that was normal. Guess I'm used to having to explain myself for extended periods of time.
 
I talked it over with my CFI and chief pilot at the club and they both said the long oral was due to him knowing we wern't flying and we had nothing but time. I was thinking that was normal. Guess I'm used to having to explain myself for extended periods of time.
After failing a five hour oral for CFI I went out to lunch with the DE. I learned from him and I'm sure it gave him an idea of what he could expect from me as an instructor. Some might think it pretty abnormal to go have lunch with the examiner who just failed you. I saw it as a benefit.

It sounds like you benefited as well.
 
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