LongEZ weight and balance

Tom-D

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How difficult it is to change the W&B to compensate for a bigger engine? lets say you wanted to buy a alreadying flying LongEZ that has a 0-235 installed and wanted to change to a 0-360.

What must happen to adjust the CG for the aircraft?
 
In the spirit of the original question....


What's the weight and moment of the old engine and accessories? How does the weight and moment of the engine and accessories for he new engine compare?

How do you compensate for the changed moment? Better to change the engine mount, or add weight someplace?

What happens to the load you can carry?
 
How do you compensate for the changed moment? Better to change the engine mount, or add weight someplace?

What happens to the load you can carry?

That is the dilemma, as I can determine, the engine is already as far forward as it can go.
 
If you're adding a heavier engine and you can't move the engine forward towards the CG, then you have to move other weight farther forward of the CG, like in the nose if that's possible.
A battery or lead are two possibilities.
 
That is the dilemma, as I can determine, the engine is already as far forward as it can go.

Are the wings swept back behind the engine? If so, if they were lengthened, could the CG be placed where you need it? Could they take the increased strain of being lengthened?
 
If you're adding a heavier engine and you can't move the engine forward towards the CG, then you have to move other weight farther forward of the CG, like in the nose if that's possible.
A battery or lead are two possibilities.

Yup....

Shift weight is the only option for Tom... It will reduce useful load but you can make up for it with the additional HP..........

Remember... It is an experimental, Tom can do anything he wants...
 
Need to join a different forum. This has been done already numerous times, just not by anyone here.
 
I half-built a Vari-Eze so, not a lot of help vis-a-vis the Long. Basically you will add ballast right at the tip in front of your toes. Which upsets somthing called the 'polar moment of inertia'(think of a sling weapon with a heavy rock at the end of the lanyard). Many Eze aircraft already have ballast up there, and when you increase the weight at the engine station, you'll be adding ~20Lbs in the nose or more.

It will likely increase the PIO tendency, and also the pitch flutter in rain. Not something that the Eze aircraft are good at to begin with. If it has the Roncz canard option, adding a big engine in back is going to be interesting. It's a very low drag airfoil, with touchy low speed handling, and although it won't technically stall, you can develop a really exciting sink rate at high pitch angle that is hard to recover. Think, like the back side of the power curve where adding pitch only makes it worse.

the Long-Eze is a travelling plane. If I were going to change engines, I would avoid the big Lyc/Conti and go straight to the turbo Rotax 914 for altitude performance. But - that's just me, and I'm weird.
 
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