Logging time during IR lessons

[Morne]

Just had my first formal IR flight lesson last week. In my log the CFII wrote the time under BOTH dual AND PIC. Is that correct? I figured it would just be dual time. We were in simulated instrument flight and were not talking to ATC if that matters.

Later when I can use a safety pilot, rather than a full blown CFII, in the right seat will that change the answer?

 

[poadeleted20]

Yes, it's correct, because you were the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which you are rated. Read 61.51(e)(1)(i). And yes, when you have a safety pilot in the right seat, you'll log only PIC time, not training ("dual") time.

 

[jesse]

Just had my first formal IR flight lesson last week. In my log the CFII wrote the time under BOTH dual AND PIC. Is that correct? I figured it would just be dual time. We were in simulated instrument flight and were not talking to ATC if that matters.

Later when I can use a safety pilot, rather than a full blown CFII, in the right seat will that change the answer?

Even if you are talking to ATC - operating under IFR - flying in solid IMC you'll still be logging PIC. I see instructors screw this up all the time in logbooks.