Lets say you have a job interview

Hmmm, a friend got fired from a $200,000+ a year job when it got back to his boss that he'd interviewed at a company that wasn't even a competitor. The boss said something about "disloyalty." How's that for a joke.
 
Hmmm, a friend got fired from a $200,000+ a year job when it got back to his boss that he'd interviewed at a company that wasn't even a competitor. The boss said something about "disloyalty." How's that for a joke.

I know more than one person that got fired that way. And one General Counsel of a large, publicly traded company that was warned by the CEO that said fate would befall him if he ever was "disloyal" in that manner.

Not that it's any better in the government SES - some senior officials are required to write and sign (but not date) resignation letters when sworn in.
 
Wow....this was a really interesting read.

So - what I did was this: I called my old boss and said "I need half of a personal day." He responded with "What, do you have a job interview?"

Was a tough spot to be in. I had to lie and tell him 'no,' but that's because it would have been an immediate death sentence if I said yes. I told him it was "personal" and I didn't feel comfortable going into details. That seemed to be ok.

If your boss assumes you're taking time off for a job interview, then it's probably not a job you want to be at anymore.

My personal time is my personal time. I don't give explanations of what I'm using it for typically, because, well, it's nobody's business but my own. I know of one manager who complained that her employees were taking "too many personal days off." No such thing - it's your personal time.

But I'm glad it worked out so well for you! :thumbsup:
 
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Wow....this was a really interesting read.

So - what I did was this: I called my old boss and said "I need half of a personal day." He responded with "What, do you have a job interview?"

Was a tough spot to be in. I had to lie and tell him 'no,' but that's because it would have been an immediate death sentence if I said yes. I told him it was "personal" and I didn't feel comfortable going into details. That seemed to be ok.

So - once I got up to Santa Fe, my job interview was neat. I wanted to share this now, because my life has changed so drastically (in a positive way) since this interview.

Once I walked into the heavily secured building and talked to the receptionist, I was lead into a fancy room that was called "The Red Room," with all red furniture, oriental artwork all over the walls, and a giant Hookah sitting in the corner. I thought it was a lamp at first, until I saw all the hoses....so weird.

Well, my future boss walked in with a very defined purpose. He was obviously a very busy man, and had just come from something pretty stressful. He reached into hit pocked, pulled out a pack of cigarettes and asked me if I wanted one.

"No thanks, I have my own," I said. Then it blew my mind, I figured we would be walking outside to smoke instead of starting the interview, but instead, he lit his cigarette up right there, and handed me an ashtray and a match.

Whoa....this place is unique...

So, about an hour later, we finished up our part of the interview, and he said he wanted t introduce me to the IT team (at that time, everyone was still IT, not IM). I met everyone on the team, and my future Boss's Boss talked to me in an office for a bit, as a mini-second interview. That went really well also, and we then proceeded to go to talk to the Senior Director of IT, and he suggested they take me out to lunch, and then have me meet with HR.

Well, I knew I had the job at this point, so I was enjoying this. We went out to lunch, and we talked about a lot of different, non-work related things over Green Chile Cheeseburgers and a beer. Wicked cool. Conversation topics spanned: Motorcycles, Flying (my future boss wanted to be a pilot, and being from South Africa, he had a lot of friends that were), Chicks, Beer, and a few other things.

This was, by far, the most relaxing and laid back interview I had ever been on. I should note that my suit was overkill, since everyone was wearing jeans and t-shirts.

Well, after the entire experience, it was like 2:30 or 3:00, and I still had an hour drive back to Albuquerque. Ooops....the day went a lot longer than I planned. I returned to my old job and my old office at about 4:00, stuck around for an hour or two, and went home. My old boss never went into the office that day, so he never knew whether I was there or not. Oh well.

I got a call and an offer about 4 or 5 days later, and I accepted.

And that, my friends, is how I wound up on a crazy ride that took me to North Carolina and through an acquisition in which I am one of the only two people from the old office that survived. That's a really good story too, but I don't think anyone really wants to hear it right now...something tells me no one cares about "How Nick became successful." lol.
I thought that you and your wife were living in North Carolina and that you were going to start a beer and wine delivery business? Does this mean that the beer and wine delivery business is off?
 
I thought that you and your wife were living in North Carolina and that you were going to start a beer and wine delivery business? Does this mean that the beer and wine delivery business is off?

Look at the date of post #1.
 
Glad things have worked out well for you, Nick. We'll have to try to meet up somewhere this summer for some fresh seafood and get you stick time in the -7A.

As a side note to the 'looking for a new job' subject -- my current employer has a point in their Internet Usage Policy that says that employees can't use company computers to look at job postings for other companies. I haven't heard of anyone getting canned because someone found 'Monster.com' in their browser history, but I'm sure it's an option that would be easily used.

As far as how to deal with managers, I am in a unique situation in that I have a very good relationship with my boss, my boss's boss, my boss's boss's boss, and my boss's boss's boss's boss. During my annual review a few weeks ago, I flat out told my boss and boss's boss that I had been looking for other jobs in January - things were going the wrong direction for my career here, and I was fed up with it. They said they understood, and if I ever get that frustrated again, to come talk to them and they will work to try to alleviate some of the frustration. I have also told my boss's boss's boss that if a large strategic meeting that he is involved in at the end of this month doesn't go in a direction that we hope, I will be looking for a new job. He said he agrees, and he may be looking as well.

It all depends on the personal situation within the company. One reason I like the company I work for now - we are a HUGE international company (that most people have never heard of), and have mundane corporate policies to match - but the policies are enforced on a 'local' level, so a good relationship with your local management goes a long way to preventing ridiculous 'by the book' enforcement, unless necessary.
 
I thought that you and your wife were living in North Carolina and that you were going to start a beer and wine delivery business? Does this mean that the beer and wine delivery business is off?

This whole thread was begun when I was entertaining the idea of taking the job with Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company and culminated with my acceptance and subsequent move to North Carolina after acquisition was completed by my current employer.

The beer/wine idea is still very much a go!
 
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