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  1. MikeLima

    MikeLima Pre-Flight

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    Wrapping up all the loose ends here and need to verify a couple things just to be sure:

    1). Flying in on Wednesday morning (or Thursday)-- I do not need tickets in advance of arriving nor do I need to have pre-purchased camping, correct?

    2) the rule against a small camp stove for coffee is, or is not, enforced? (Seems I have seen Reference to meals being prepared in camp but that may be campground other than aircraft camping)

    Thank you.

    ML
     
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    1. No advance admission tickets needed, and you can't pre-purchase airplane camping, so no for that too
    2. What rule?

    https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure/p.../airplane-camping/airplane-camping-guidelines

    Clearly says:

    "The Oshkosh Fire Department strictly prohibits wood campfires and charcoal grills (per National Fire Protection Association standards) anywhere in the aircraft camping areas.

    Use of white gas or propane-fired camp stoves is allowed in aircraft camping, provided they are used in an area well away from parked aircraft and that the stove is attended at all times. It is strongly recommended that aircraft near the stove be checked for any fuel fumes or leakage, and the stove be elevated above ground level."
     
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    [QUOTE="ytodd, ,
    2. What rule?
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    The published Notam. It says, "Observe all fire prevention rules. No campfires or stoves are permitted near aircraft."

    I made a few of assumptions which led to my conclusion which may be the cause of my confusion. The first is that the aircraft camping areas are all on airport grounds and are covered by the Notam. The Notam addresses camping in designated areas. The second assumption is that it would be hard to set a stove in the camping area that would not be "near" an aircraft. The third is that the camping guidelines specifically mention the permissible use of a stove "near" an aircraft and therefore were written at sometime prior to the Notam which is more restrictive and which is actually a rule and not a guideline.

    However, I happily stand corrected.

    ML
     
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    I took a coleman gasoline camp stove with me, and a lantern, defueled. ( or maybe I mailed them to myself, general deliverly, to the on field post office.. they still have that?) I then used the sump on the wing to obtain enough fuel to fuel them for cooking and light. When done, what was left went back into the tank and I sent the empty stove and lantern back home the way they came.
     
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    100 is LOW lead, not NO lead. That would scare the bejesus out of me to be cooking and breathing air inside a tent lit with leaded fuel.

    Jim
     
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    My own camp stove it just a tad too cantankerous to be used around airplanes. Do have a plan if the field is full, by Wednesday it should be OK, but you never know.
     
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    I have a JetBoil to boil the water and a AeroPress to make the actual coffee. Works great.

    As Jim points out 100LL is only "low" compared to the 100/130 it replaced (and then it's only like a 33% reduction). It's got four times more lead than 80 had and much more than car gas ever did.
     
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    There are mini-stores on the campground that start brewing coffee pretty early. I never buy coffee at home, but it was nice to not have to worry about making it at Oshkosh.
     
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    I have a JetBoil as well but prefer a pour over. I grind beans fresh with a manual grinder while the water boils then enjoy a great cup of coffee. The vendor stuff is not my favorite but perhaps I am a coffee snob.
     
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    I had a jet boil stove and used it, because I camp so seldom that making instant coffee as soon as I roll out of the tent is a 'thing' that says: I'm camping! But last year on Wednesday late morning we parked within 3 rows and 6 A/C deep of the showers/bathrooms which put us pretty close to the breakfast tent. I wish I could reserve that tie down every year it was so good.

    ytodd: that's a step up, sounds 'next level'.
     
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    I dont cook inside. And the lead isn't so bad once you are done developing ;) I think we mostly boiled water for coffee in a percolating pot.. that sort of thing...
     
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    My gas stoves run way way better on white gas (Coleman fuel) than avgas. I carry two fuel bottles when I go out hunting and usually return with one unused. Avgas works in a pinch but its so easy to avoid.
     
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    Would the lead collecting in the tent lining help with waterproofing? I'm just looking for a lead lining.
     
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    Fellow coffee snob checking in... camping or no, quality coffee is a must.
     
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    Red barn coffee pots are ready to go by 7am
     
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    My life is so much simpler without the caffeine addiction.
     
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    But you miss the comraderie of the early morning coffee clutches...
     
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    Are you a fellow coffee connoisseur?

    I have a LIDO ET hand grinder and frequently use AeroPress, Chemex, and V60. Get my coffee fresh roasted from Cartel Coffee!
     
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    At home I use the Jura. I actually don't grind at Ohskosh, too much effort. The Aeropress does a great job and is trivial to clean, unlike the REI french press I had before.
     
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    Ron -- Are you marshalling this year?
     
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    Yep, look for me around Classic Point (Papa at Papa 3) or in the Vintage ops building.
     
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