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I think I'm gonna ge a chance to fly L29 Delfin. Excited!!

So how do I log that?! :))

Edit: I actually know that I can't really log this. I was joking.. Though I think I will still put it in my logbook with 0 times... just for the record.. it'll only be a 10 min flight I think.. not worth any time
 
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dont know. Not in USA. My guess, the pilot is not an instructor, but I don't know
 
On the rare occasions that something like that has happened to me, I put an entry in my logbook more like a diary entry without any time entered or added.
 
I had 1.5 of L-39 a few years back, and I loged every minute I was doing the flying, 1.0.
 
You can log anything you like. Stick it in the logbook. Very few of the time categories actually have regulations. (PIC being the major one.) Other than that, nothing prevents you from creating and using any crazy column you want.
 
Why wouldn't someone be able to log it? (assuming they touch the controls) I imagine an L29 is single engine land below 12,500lbs. Or do jets require a type rating no matter what?
 
falconkidding said:
Why wouldn't someone be able to log it? (assuming they touch the controls) I imagine an L29 is single engine land below 12,500lbs. Or do jets require a type rating no matter what?
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You got it. You need a type for the jet regardless of weight.
 
I would think a single line entry in you check book should cover it. :)
 
So, I just did a closer look at this thing... I think I AM flying with instructor and I WILL pilot the plane for a little bit.

So then back to the logging question. Not FAA CFI, how does it get logged then? Or can it be? This isn't really that important for me, not like I'll be going for jet or L29 certification. But I am curious.
 
genna said:
So, I just did a closer look at this thing... I think I AM flying with instructor and I WILL pilot the plane for a little bit.

So then back to the logging question. Not FAA CFI, how does it get logged then? Or can it be? This isn't really that important for me, not like I'll be going for jet or L29 certification. But I am curious.
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Dual received with no pic just like when you were a student pilot and get the CFI to sign your logbook
 
Dude, log all the time you manipulate the controls, if you want to. You can log anytime you want, in any aircraft - don't need a type rating, a FAA CFI, endorsement, nothing. . .

If you don't use the time for currency or another rating, you can log (or not log) as you please.
 
Sundancer, it just can't be logged as PIC, even as the sole manipulator of the controls because the jet requires a type rating.

"A pilot may log PIC time when he/she is the sole occupant of the aircraft; is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated or has privileges..."
 
Concur - We might be agreeing on the same diffrence - as you say, not PIC time for FAA purposes, but you can record it as you please, where you please.

I'd still put it in the PIC column in my logbook, with a mental note not to include the time for the FEDS, if it ever came up.
 
Fearless Tower said:
You got it. You need a type for the jet regardless of weight.
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Not to be pedantic, but wouldn't he need a LOA to log PIC in that airplane? My understanding is warbirds over 450HP or jet powered require one, and type ratings are for civil aircraft.
 
sferguson524 said:
Not to be pedantic, but wouldn't he need a LOA to log PIC in that airplane? My understanding is warbirds over 450HP or jet powered require one, and type ratings are for civil aircraft.
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It may be. But where did you hear that a LOA is required for warbirds over 450 HP? While I believe you need a LOA for some fighters, you certainly don't need a LOA to fly a T-6 and it is over 450 HP.
 
I seem to remember reading it in a Deakin article some years back. I could be wrong though.

Edit - It's 800 HP, I was WAY off.. Apologies for that!
 
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