Kentmorr Restaurant (3W3) has reopened!

Discussion in 'Cool Places to Fly' started by mcdewey, May 4, 2023.

  1. mcdewey

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  2. GeorgeC

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    Kid tested, pilot approved.
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    How's the runway at 3W3 these days? It's been a few years since I've flown in.
     
  4. GeorgeC

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    Excellent, as usual:
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    I re-opened it on FlightsForBites.com. It must be good as it was in the database 2X.
     
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    "PALEO GATE"?????

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    Yes, the SFRA.
     
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    They did a bunch of drainage work. Of course, make sure it's open before flying in. If things get too soggy, a NOTAM will say it's closed to transients. However, that should happen less now.
     
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    Yes, but what IS "Paleo gate"?
     
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    Iirc it takes you to Jurassic Park
     
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    Gotcha. The surface used to be a bit lumpy. Never an issue for my 182 but I recall a Cirrus pranging a nose wheel 10 to so years ago. That would not be my first choice of aircraft to use at 3W3.
     
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    On an SFRA flight plan, you file a "gate" as your point of entry/egress so the controllers have a general idea of where to look when you're coming or going and so they can assign appropriate sector frequencies for you to talk to.
     
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    PALEO is just a fix on an airway. It’s designated within the context of the DC SFRA as a reference point for people arriving from the north east, specifically on the DCA 045 through 120 VOR radials, thus the term “gate”. It’s really so ATC knows generally where to look for you without you having to give a detailed position report.
     
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    Ah, gotcha. It's been many years since I flew anywhere near DC airspace. Back then it was still a TCA.
     
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    Apparently something happened back in 2001 or something.
     
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    The TCA became Class B airspace. The SFRA is a TFR, but not temporary. Special rules and procedures to fly in it, and training required within 60 NM.