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Whither the Southern Accent? By JEFFREY COLLINS and KRISTEN WYATT, Associated Press Writers 45 minutes ago


COLUMBIA, S.C. - "Y'all" isn't welcome in Erica Tobolski's class in voice and diction at the University of South Carolina. And forget about "fixin'," as in getting ready to do something, or "pin" when talking about the writing instrument.

Tobolski's class is all about getting rid of accents, mostly Southern ones in the heart of the former Confederacy, and replacing them with Standard American Dialect, the uninflected tone of TV news anchors that oozes authority and refinement.
"We sort of avoid talking about class in this country, but clearly class is indicated by how we speak," she said.
"Many come to see me because they want to sound less country," she said. "They say, 'I don't want to lose my accent completely, but I want to be able to minimize it or modify it.'"
That was the case for sophomore Ali Huffstetler, who said she "luuuvs" the slow-paced softness of her upstate South Carolina magnolia mouth but wants to be able to turn it on and off depending on her audience.
"I went to New Hampshire to visit one of my best friends and all they kept saying was, 'Will you please talk, can you just talk for me?'" Huffstetler said. "I felt like a little puppet show."
Across the fast-growing South, accents are under assault, and not just from the modern-day Henry Higginses of academia. There's the flood of transplants from other regions, notions of Southern upward mobility that require dropping the drawl, and stereotypes that "y'alls" and "suhs" signal low status or lack of intelligence.
But is the Southern accent really disappearing?
That depends what accent you mean. The South, because of its rural, isolated past, boasts a diversity of dialects, from Appalachian twangs in several states to Elizabethan lilts in Virginia to Cajun accents in Louisiana to African-influenced Gullah accents on the coasts of Georgia and South Carolina.
One accent that has been all but wiped out is the slow juleps-in-the-moonlight drawl favored by Hollywood portrayals of the South. To find that so-called plantation accent in most parts of the region nowadays requires a trip to the video store.
"The Rhett-and-Scarlett accent, that is disappearing, no doubt about it," said Bill Kretzschmar, a linguist at the University of Georgia and editor of the American Linguistic Atlas, which tracks speech patterns.
"Blame it on the boll weevil," he said, referring to the cotton pest. "That accent from plantation areas, which was never the whole South, has been in decline for a long time. The economic basis of that culture started going away at the turn of the last century," when the bugs nearly wiped out the South's cotton economy.
Even as the stereotypical Southern accent gets rarer, other speech patterns take its place, and they're not any less Southern. The Upland South accent, a faster-paced dialect native to the Appalachian mountains, is said to be spreading just as fast as the plantation drawl disappears.
"The one constant about language is, it's always changing," Kretzschmar said. "The Southern accent is not going anywhere. But you have all kinds of mixtures and changes."
For a long-term study on whether the Southern accent is disappearing, University of Georgia linguists went to Roswell, Ga., an Atlanta suburb that is just the kind of transient place that leads to the death of indigenous dialects. It's packed with strip malls and subdivisions with no cotton patches or peach trees in sight.
"I don't hear it," 21-year-old Roswell native Amanda Locher said of the accent. She's never lived outside the South, but even Northern newcomers question her Southernness. "People tell me I sound like I'm from up North. To hear a true Southern accent, you'd have to go deeper south than here."
Adam Mach, a 25-year-old tire shop worker who moved to the Atlanta suburbs from Lafayette, La., has got a noticeable Louisiana lilt. But he said his accent seldom makes conversation because the area is such a melting pot of newcomers.

"Everybody I meet's not from here," he shrugged.
North Carolina State University linguist Walt Wolfram said it's a misconception among Southerners that Yankee newcomers are stamping out traditional speech. More likely, he said, is that newcomers pick up local speech patterns.
"When people move here and don't think they've changed at all, they go home and people say, 'Wow. You've turned Southern.' They pick up enough to be identified as Southern. So it's still there, still strongly identified with the South," Wolfram said.
But that doesn't mean that population change in the South isn't chipping away at old-timey dialects, especially in cities. Wolfram said the "dearest feature" of the Southern accent — the vowel shift where one-syllable words like "air" come out in two syllables, "ay-ah" — is certainly vanishing. Other aspects — such as double-modal constructions like "might could" — are still pervasive.
Kretzschmar, who has recorded Roswell speakers for three years, said his suburban Atlanta studies have backed up his suspicion that the Southern accent is morphing along with the urbanizing South.
"It's not really disappearing, but the circumstances of living make it different," he said. "People don't have connections with their neighbors to maintain their way of speech.
"The circumstances of how people get together and talk in the cities have changed; they're not constantly talking to people who talk just like them. But in the South outside the cities, you have a lot of similarities."
Georgia-bred humorist Roy Blount Jr. understands that people with strong Southern accents are often perceived as "slow and dimwitted." But he thinks it's "sort of a shame" that people should feel the need to soften or even lose their accents.
"My father, who was a surely intelligent man, would say `cain't'. He wouldn't say `can't.' And, `There ain't no way, just there ain't no way.' You don't want to say, `There isn't any way.' That just spoils the whole thing," Blount said.
"I just think that there's a certain eloquence in Southern vernacular that I wouldn't want to lose touch with ... you ought to sound like where you come from."
But never fear. There are still plenty of professions that thrive on a good Southern twang — from preachers to football coaches to a certain breed of courtroom litigators.
And South Carolina's Tobolski, an Indiana native who came south eight years ago, can help there, too. As a private coach she has even taught a politician she wouldn't name how to ratchet up his Southern accent to make him appear more folksy before certain crowds — a technique she calls "code switching."
"He didn't want to lose his dialect entirely. He just wanted to be able to adapt."
"I don't think that any regional accent is going to be eliminated," she said. "There's still people who want to hang on to how they sound. That's who they are. That's their identity. And that goes from New Jersey to Minnesota to Wyoming to Georgia."
___ EDITOR'S NOTE — Kristen Wyatt reported this story from Roswell, Ga.; Greg Bluestein in Atlanta and Allen G. Breed in Raleigh, N.C., also contributed to this report.
 
Richard said:
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Tobolski's class is all about getting rid of accents, mostly Southern ones in the heart of the former Confederacy, and replacing them with Standard American Dialect, the uninflected tone of TV news anchors that oozes authority and refinement......

Those kind of people go straight to hayell when they die ;)

I like accents. All kinds. They add color to the world just like skin color and ethnicity do.

There's a lovely dialect in the Appalachians that may unfortunately be dying. It's a place where "quar" has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It simply means "different" as in, "He's a might quar."

Here are a couple of articles about Appalacia.

http://www.ls.net/~newriver/osh/osh1.htm

http://www.kentuckyhighlands.com/kh...bmissions/language_of_appalachia_by_gayle.asp

And, as I have said on occasion, I never heard of anyone who worked their a** off all their life to save up all their money to retire in the North. Not that there is anything wrong with that. There are places in the north I dearly love and would be happy living in. There is some reason that so many people move South. I think they want to learn the accent. ;)
 
Carol said:
And, as I have said on occasion, I never heard of anyone who worked their a** off all their life to save up all their money to retire in the North. Not that there is anything wrong with that. There are places in the north I dearly love and would be happy living in. There is some reason that so many people move South. I think they want to learn the accent. ;)

Well, Carol, I have heard of a bumper sticker in Florida that suggested someone might be thinking of going North for retirement:

"When I retire, I'm going to move North and drive slow in the middle lane!"

:D
 
Mrs. Tobolksi should take note of the following:
Quote: "Adam Mach, a 25-year-old tire shop worker who moved to the Atlanta suburbs from Lafayette, La., has got a noticeable Louisiana lilt."

Rule of English grammar: "Have should never be used with got; "has a noticeable Louisiana lilt" would be gramatically sufficient.

Secondly, re Ray Blount's comment: "I just think that there's a certain eloquence in Southern vernacular that I wouldn't want to lose touch with ... you ought to sound like where you come from."

Proper English language grammar has long had a rule: Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. Blount's statment(above) has twice violated the rule.

Thayah, ahm goin' t' beuhd! :rolleyes:

HR
 
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Lawreston said:
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Secondly, re Ray Blount's comment: "I just think that there's a certain eloquence in Southern vernacular that I wouldn't want to lose touch with ... you ought to sound like where you come from."

Proper English language grammar has long had a rule: Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. Blount's statment(above) has twice violated the rule.

Reminds me of the old story of the southern girl sitting on an airplane who decides to strike up a conversation with the woman sitting beside her. She asks, "Where are you from?" The woman replies in a snooty manner, "I am from somewhere that we do not end our sentences with prepositions."

The belle then says, "Oh excuse me! I am so sorry. Let me rephrase that. Where are you from, b****?"
 
When I was a kid (back in the 50s) in high school in Ohio, The 12th grade Speech and Drama teacher told me to lose the southern accent ingrained in me from Tennessee and South Carolina residency until the 10th grade. I didn't seem able to change, and consequently lost a point on my grade.

Now, we see many prominent persons with a noticeable accent. Dan Rather, George W. Bush, Newt Gingrich and many more.

My Favorite Redhead started her Special Education career 3 decades ago as a speech pathologist. She can localize your origin dang near to the county by your accent.

All I can say is Vive la accent!
 
Carol said:
Reminds me of the old story of the southern girl sitting on an airplane who decides to strike up a conversation with the woman sitting beside her. She asks, "Where are you from?" The woman replies in a snooty manner, "I am from somewhere that we do not end our sentences with prepositions."

The belle then says, "Oh excuse me! I am so sorry. Let me rephrase that. Where are you from, b****?"

Wonderful story; LMAOPIMP. (And just noticing that "statment" in my post is an incorrect spelling of the intended reference).
[Only 21° at Wiscasset Airport at this moment.]
 
Carol said:
Those kind of people go straight to hayell when they die ;)

I like accents. All kinds. They add color to the world just like skin color and ethnicity do.

The internet and expedient global information exchange is pasturizing and homiginizing the human race. Globally, not just the south.
 
The Old Man said:
My Favorite Redhead started her Special Education career 3 decades ago as a speech pathologist. She can localize your origin dang near to the county by your accent.

All I can say is Vive la accent!

Many years ago in my camera store I had a regular customer who was -- it appeared -- "veddy British." He was a naval architect assigned to Bath Iron Works, builders of whatever the warship of the era happened to be. And he was a very good photographer; we could converse at considerable length. One day I asked Bob Tawton, What part of England is your home? It appeared so obvious. Without missing a beat he replied, The Ohstrylian pawtt." I nearly collapsed in embarrassment but was appeased when he clarified that his Australian accent was very close to certain areas of England.
He was with the Australian Embassy, and was at Bath Iron Works to incorporate Australian Navy modifications into the Bath Iron Works destroyer design from which Australian Navy ships were being built at Todd Shipyards in California.

HR
 
My ex- spent a lot of time trying to lose her southern accent while living in DC. Too bad, there was something really nice about that southern accent...
 
Nuh uh!!!

Lawreston said:
Secondly, re Ray Blount's comment: "I just think that there's a certain eloquence in Southern vernacular that I wouldn't want to lose touch with ... you ought to sound like where you come from."

Proper English language grammar has long had a rule: Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. Blount's statment(above) has twice violated the rule.
Ending sentences with prepositions does not violate ANY rule of English grammar!!

That whole silly business came about when an English scholar (whose name escapes me and I'm too lazy to look it up) wrote an article comparing English with Latin. He made the observation that if English were to be used in a similar manner as Latin, then we would not be able to end sentences with prepositions.

BUT English isn't like Latin! It's an amalgam of languages - the Germanic languages being a large part of the mixture! - and we can end sentences however we want to!! :D
 
There is a pretty good article this month in National Geographic on US dialicts. Contrairy to what people think the TV and entertainment industry are having seemingly no affect on reducing regional language differences.

What I find interesting is that my accent comes and goes depending on where I am. I grew up in both the north and south. I had a southern accent but lost it when I moved up north. Now when I visit family in the south it takes about 3 days but I get it back. The first time my wife heard this (she is a yankee) it completely freaked her out. Now I have to concentrate when I am down south and talk to her to remember to compensate for her lack of dialect.
 
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