TMetzinger
Final Approach
Ran into a weird situation this week - I was asked to ferry a 172RG, and we went through the usual drill of sending my flight summary to the owner's insurance so I could be covered for the flight.
I've got 1100+ hours, 300+ retract time, and 5 hours (last september) in a 172RG and another 22 hours in 182RGs.
When I flew the 172RG last time, THAT owner's insurance just wanted me to go up with the owner and shoot a few touch and goes before I took it solo (the owner was NOT a CFI). They just wanted me to have some logged time before I was solo in the airplane I guess, and I thought that was reasonable. And I didn't find anything weird in the 172RG, it flew like a 172, landed like a 172, and I just needed to remember the gear and to be gentle.
The CURRENT insurance company wants a CFI sign-off, but I don't believe they specified any time minimums - so they just want someone else signing me off as competent and having someone they can point fingers at, I guess. And there's no requirement that the CFI have any 172RG time, so it's likely (as there are relatively few 172RGs around) that I'd end up teaching the CFI about the airplane.
Now I've had to get dual for ferry jobs in airplanes that were brand new to me, but never for any airplane I'd flown in the last couple of years.
Just looking for comments - has anyone else noticed the insurers getting risk-averse to the point of silliness? If I wasn't flying for hire my AOPA non-owned policy would cover it, and all they care about is that I fly standard aircraft with no more than 400 HP.
I've got 1100+ hours, 300+ retract time, and 5 hours (last september) in a 172RG and another 22 hours in 182RGs.
When I flew the 172RG last time, THAT owner's insurance just wanted me to go up with the owner and shoot a few touch and goes before I took it solo (the owner was NOT a CFI). They just wanted me to have some logged time before I was solo in the airplane I guess, and I thought that was reasonable. And I didn't find anything weird in the 172RG, it flew like a 172, landed like a 172, and I just needed to remember the gear and to be gentle.
The CURRENT insurance company wants a CFI sign-off, but I don't believe they specified any time minimums - so they just want someone else signing me off as competent and having someone they can point fingers at, I guess. And there's no requirement that the CFI have any 172RG time, so it's likely (as there are relatively few 172RGs around) that I'd end up teaching the CFI about the airplane.
Now I've had to get dual for ferry jobs in airplanes that were brand new to me, but never for any airplane I'd flown in the last couple of years.
Just looking for comments - has anyone else noticed the insurers getting risk-averse to the point of silliness? If I wasn't flying for hire my AOPA non-owned policy would cover it, and all they care about is that I fly standard aircraft with no more than 400 HP.