As others have said, its a close call. Why not add a stop & go then some site seeing at OU89...Keep in mind...Its the HOURS that add up too!
I'm guessing he's going through his logbook to see how much XC time he has, so its probably a flight he's already done.
Pretty much.
Thanks guys. I'm not really in a hurry and am just counting flights that happened for other reasons. The ability to count these trips really comes down to the semantics of how distance is measured -- literally down to which direction you land could make the difference, but I figured there was some definition of the distance used for measurement as we're talking the distance of a few hundred feet here.
Lee Memorial is a nice airport. Problem is in winter, it is often clouded in due to surrounding terrain, and you have to inquire if someone got around to plowing it...
However what you say about hours is correct. Putting a C-150 into econo cruise billed on the tach hour would be the easiest/cheapest way to get this done but it's not what I'm after. It will happen in due time.
50 is not more than 50.
According to Google Earth, the distance between the two airport reference points is 303,816 feet.
50nm is 303,806ft.
I'd say it's a good XC.
50.00 is not "a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles", so it does not count.As Ron mentioned, Airnav shows 49.9NM, while Skyvector shows it at 50NM.
Using the Great Circle Calculator and published A/FD latlongs ( http://williams.best.vwh.net/gccalc.htm ):
Spherical model: 49.94
WGS84: 50.00
Clark: 50.00
International: 50.01
Krasovsky: 50.00
Bessel: 49.9977
WGS72: 50.00
WGS66: 50.00
FAI Sphere: 49.97
So... yeah. I'd say that you could probably count it, but it'd be a lot easier to just go somewhere slightly further away so there's no question (and because why not?). Maybe take a slight detour over to S49?
Nine methods (including all those used by aviation systems) say it's not "more than 50 nautical miles". Good luck making the argument before the FAA that one outlying system says it's 50.01.Ah, but 50.01 is. As is 50.00[...]01. Even one foot over 50 NM would technically be loggable, wouldn't it?
Nine methods (including all those used by aviation systems) say it's not "more than 50 nautical miles". Good luck making the argument before the FAA that one outlying system says it's 50.01.
Nine methods (including all those used by aviation systems) say it's not "more than 50 nautical miles". Good luck making the argument before the FAA that one outlying system says it's 50.01.
You all really don't like to get very far from home do you
Now a more simpler one. This came out to be 2.0 hours on the tach of a C-172. No clue the hobbs time. What's Loggable as the CC? Can I log the whole mess or do I have to skip the KBOI->S78 leg?
KBOI S78 U76 U89 KBOI http://skyvector.com/?ll=43.4345061....K1.KBOI:A.K1.S78:A.K1.U76:A.K1.U89:A.K1.KBOI
Given that KBOI was your original point of departure, and U89 is at least 50nm from it, the whole flight counts as XC. (If U89 weren't far enough away, you would have had to treat the first leg as a separate, non-XC flight, so your XC flight had S78 as the "original point of departure", but lucky for you that's not the case.)
The more complicated issue is the tach time. You should be logging flight time as time the aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight to time it comes to rest after landing. FAA generally takes Hobbs time for this, but it doesn't really correlate with tach time. Any chance you have takeoff and landing times written down somewhere? (On the other hand, tach time will probably be shorter, so I guess at least they can't claim you're over-logging?)