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What combination do you use


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What combination do you use.

1. iPad and iphone
2. iPad and android phone
3. Nexus and iPhone
4. Nexus and android phone
5. Nexus IPad and iPhone
6. Nexus iPad and android phone

Thank for taking the poll.
 
You really need to add a choice of Android tablet as Nexus if far from the only tablet.
 
None of the above??

Try: Transformer Tablet and Galaxy S3 Phone.

Why is Nexus the only Android tablet option?
 
The intent was to see how many used an iPad and android phone.
Or a Nexus and IPhone.
I am researching for a decision upcoming regarding one of the choices.

The other choices asked about are not part of equation or potential purchase.

Thanks for the input.
Lynn
 
Android phones just surpassed 70% market share, worldwide. At this rate of growth, Android will render Apple "the new Blackberry" by 2015.

Tablet Android market share is lagging behind, especially with pilots (due to Foreflight's desire to be Apple-only) but with the latest/greatest/new Nexus 7 slated to be released later this summer. things look very bright, indeed, for Android.
 
None of the above.

I have a Android phone and tablet, but not a Nexus. I hate tablets. They absolutely suck for the web. No hovering, no right click, java doesn't work, formatting sucks, pain in the ass to "click" the correct link unless you have alien fingers, etc...
 
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Ipad and iPhone. You get what you pay for. Ipad is head and shoulders above the many different droid manufactures.

And to answer Jay' simplistic view of market share.
Last week Techpinions.com posted a really good editorial by John Kirk discussing how much of a joke it is to consider Android the winner in the smartphone space simply because they have the most market share. The very next day, Business Insider tech editor Jay Yarow pubished a post with a headline that read, “Apple Should Be Furious That It Has Such A Tiny Sliver Of The Smartphone Market.” Here's John Gruber’s response at Daring Fireball. And here's my take...

John Kirk opens with a well known joke about two farmers buying watermelons. They pay $5 per watermelon and sell them for $4 each, obviously losing money. At the end of the day they realize they’ve lost money so their conclusion is they need to buy a bigger truck; they need to conduct more watermelon-selling business.

Kirk doesn’t agree with the common, deeply flawed, logic that Android is winning because it has more market share than Apple, or that market share alone is the key to success. I agree with him 100% on this. In theory anyone can dominate any industry simply by giving away product for free. But what really maters is a company’s success in turning market share into profit.

MOST TECH WRITERS DON’T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM THE PAST.
Most tech writers don’t seem to be able to learn from the past. People will make dumb comments about how Apple must be ****ed off with its market share without noticing that the PC vs. Mac game has played out in the same manner already. History repeats itself and people don’t notice. Fortunately Horace Dediu over at Asymco noticed.

The graphic below is the result of Dediu’s own analysis of Q4 2012 profit share in the PC market. Apple commands an estimated 45% of the PC market’s profits. What is not shown? Apple has only 8% market share.



Why aren’t people writing about how mad Apple must be with its Mac market share? Why are we not seeing headlines about the failure of the Mac product line? Because this is old news. The PC market is an old game and the mobile industry is a new game. It’s analogous to watching live sports versus watching a recording of last year’s game.

I only wish John Kirk had spent more time talking about actual vendors rather than Android versus Apple. He points out that Android has 70% global market share and 29% profit share, whereas Apple has 18% market share and 57% profit share. Sure, this is correct. But I don’t see it as relevant. Android is an OS and Apple is a vendor. Android feeds Google’s advertising machine (and other developing business models). Apple is a fully integrated platform vendor.

In my opinion, Google has done an amazing job of succeeding with Android. The joke about selling watermelons at a loss does not apply here. Android is software that has no cost to distribute. It has a development cost and it brings in revenue through all the users who connect to Google services.

GOOGLE MAKES A TON OF CASH FROM IOS USERS, WHO OVERWHELMINGLY ENJOY GOOGLE’S SERVICES ON THEIR IPADS AND IPHONES.
Is Google winning? It depends on how you define the fight. Google is not competing head on with Apple. Google makes a ton of cash from iOS users, who overwhelmingly enjoy Google’s services on their iPads and iPhones.

Apple competes head on with other device manufacturers including Samsung. And there is no debate that Samsung, having leveraged Android, is raking in the cash. Samsung has 33% market share and 43% profit share according to Cannacord Genuity. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that pretty much all the other Android vendors aren’t making money.

This takes us to back to Business Insider. They suggest that bloggers writing about Apple’s dominance in profit share are simply defensive. They agree with the math but seems to think Apple should have the most market share and the most profit. Why? Because Tim Cook said Apple’s mission is to make the best products in the world and BI tacks on the idea that Apple should also “get them in as many hands as possible”.

BI’s entire argument centers on the idea that Apple should want it’s great products to land in “as many hands as possible”, and the only way to do this is by going after market share (not profit share).

Most people probably all agree Apple should get its products into as many people’s hands as possible, but we may not all agree on what that actually means.

I don’t think getting your product in as many hands as possible means you drop your prices through the floor in order to sell more stuff. Apple is still a business that is owned by shareholders, of which I’m one. Getting your products into as many hands as possible while maintaining the Apple premium should be the goal. Otherwise Apple should be spending its billions to give away iPhones, which would be stupid.

Bottom line: I think John Kirk and John Gruber have it right. Taken to the extreme, the idea that Apple should use its cash to give away phones to the planet in order to achieve 100% market share and win the game is ludicrous. Market share does not define winning. All we need to do is look back at the history of Apple’s domination of PC profitability to see how this really works.
 
Ipad and iPhone. You get what you pay for. Ipad is head and shoulders above the many different droid manufactures.

And to answer Jay' simplistic view of market share.
Last week Techpinions.com posted a really good editorial by John Kirk discussing how much of a joke it is to consider Android the winner in the smartphone space simply because they have the most market share. The very next day, Business Insider tech editor Jay Yarow pubished a post with a headline that read, “Apple Should Be Furious That It Has Such A Tiny Sliver Of The Smartphone Market.” Here's John Gruber’s response at Daring Fireball. And here's my take...

John Kirk opens with a well known joke about two farmers buying watermelons. They pay $5 per watermelon and sell them for $4 each, obviously losing money. At the end of the day they realize they’ve lost money so their conclusion is they need to buy a bigger truck; they need to conduct more watermelon-selling business.

Kirk doesn’t agree with the common, deeply flawed, logic that Android is winning because it has more market share than Apple, or that market share alone is the key to success. I agree with him 100% on this. In theory anyone can dominate any industry simply by giving away product for free. But what really maters is a company’s success in turning market share into profit.

MOST TECH WRITERS DON’T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM THE PAST.
Most tech writers don’t seem to be able to learn from the past. People will make dumb comments about how Apple must be ****ed off with its market share without noticing that the PC vs. Mac game has played out in the same manner already. History repeats itself and people don’t notice. Fortunately Horace Dediu over at Asymco noticed.

The graphic below is the result of Dediu’s own analysis of Q4 2012 profit share in the PC market. Apple commands an estimated 45% of the PC market’s profits. What is not shown? Apple has only 8% market share.



Why aren’t people writing about how mad Apple must be with its Mac market share? Why are we not seeing headlines about the failure of the Mac product line? Because this is old news. The PC market is an old game and the mobile industry is a new game. It’s analogous to watching live sports versus watching a recording of last year’s game.

I only wish John Kirk had spent more time talking about actual vendors rather than Android versus Apple. He points out that Android has 70% global market share and 29% profit share, whereas Apple has 18% market share and 57% profit share. Sure, this is correct. But I don’t see it as relevant. Android is an OS and Apple is a vendor. Android feeds Google’s advertising machine (and other developing business models). Apple is a fully integrated platform vendor.

In my opinion, Google has done an amazing job of succeeding with Android. The joke about selling watermelons at a loss does not apply here. Android is software that has no cost to distribute. It has a development cost and it brings in revenue through all the users who connect to Google services.

GOOGLE MAKES A TON OF CASH FROM IOS USERS, WHO OVERWHELMINGLY ENJOY GOOGLE’S SERVICES ON THEIR IPADS AND IPHONES.
Is Google winning? It depends on how you define the fight. Google is not competing head on with Apple. Google makes a ton of cash from iOS users, who overwhelmingly enjoy Google’s services on their iPads and iPhones.

Apple competes head on with other device manufacturers including Samsung. And there is no debate that Samsung, having leveraged Android, is raking in the cash. Samsung has 33% market share and 43% profit share according to Cannacord Genuity. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that pretty much all the other Android vendors aren’t making money.

This takes us to back to Business Insider. They suggest that bloggers writing about Apple’s dominance in profit share are simply defensive. They agree with the math but seems to think Apple should have the most market share and the most profit. Why? Because Tim Cook said Apple’s mission is to make the best products in the world and BI tacks on the idea that Apple should also “get them in as many hands as possible”.

BI’s entire argument centers on the idea that Apple should want it’s great products to land in “as many hands as possible”, and the only way to do this is by going after market share (not profit share).

Most people probably all agree Apple should get its products into as many people’s hands as possible, but we may not all agree on what that actually means.

I don’t think getting your product in as many hands as possible means you drop your prices through the floor in order to sell more stuff. Apple is still a business that is owned by shareholders, of which I’m one. Getting your products into as many hands as possible while maintaining the Apple premium should be the goal. Otherwise Apple should be spending its billions to give away iPhones, which would be stupid.

Bottom line: I think John Kirk and John Gruber have it right. Taken to the extreme, the idea that Apple should use its cash to give away phones to the planet in order to achieve 100% market share and win the game is ludicrous. Market share does not define winning. All we need to do is look back at the history of Apple’s domination of PC profitability to see how this really works.

LOL...

Testing a theory here - you are either less than 18, or older than 50, right?
 
I love arguments like that. Basically, it goes "Apple has lost market share because Android users are stupid poor people who only buy whatever is cheap".

Which, of course, is complete hogwash. Yes, there will always be price shoppers -- and there's nothing wrong with that -- but there are also many millions of us who have tried iOS but simply prefer Android because it works better.

Android has evolved at a pace that iOS has not matched. If that continues, Apple will become Blackberry. Some would say that has already happened. Nonetheless, I have faith that the boys in Cupertino will keep the fires stoked, which is great for all of us. A world with ONLY Android, or ONLY Apple, would suck.
 
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Jay
When is the Nexus suppose to come to market?

I agree with you about apple and the IPhone. But their new Iwatch may be a game changer.

I can't understand why ForeFlight does not support android as much of the market android has.
 
I can't understand why ForeFlight does not support android as much of the market android has.

See the recent thread about AnywhereMap. It's not like supporting Android is something that happens with a flick of a switch - Android and iOS use different API's, different IDK's, and entirely different programming languages. Creating an Android version of ForeFlight would require starting over at the beginning. Android is more difficult to support because of the much higher number of devices and screen sizes as well. Finally, Android is an already-crowded market, where they'd have to attempt to win users away from Garmin and others.

So, again, see that thread about AnywhereMap.
 
See the recent thread about AnywhereMap. It's not like supporting Android is something that happens with a flick of a switch - Android and iOS use different API's, different IDK's, and entirely different programming languages. Creating an Android version of ForeFlight would require starting over at the beginning. Android is more difficult to support because of the much higher number of devices and screen sizes as well. Finally, Android is an already-crowded market, where they'd have to attempt to win users away from Garmin and others.

So, again, see that thread about AnywhereMap.

Will do thank you.
 
Jay
When is the Nexus suppose to come to market?

I agree with you about apple and the IPhone. But their new Iwatch may be a game changer.

I can't understand why ForeFlight does not support android as much of the market android has.

The new Nexus 7 is rumored to be released later this month.

I am hopeful, but skeptical. Google has whiffed the Nexus market, IMHO, even though they've sold a gazillion of them. They simply have so many irons in the fire, I don't think they have kept their eye on the ball enough to really sell the "pure" Nexus line.

The iWatch looks cool, but Google had already announced their plan to make a smart watch before Apple did, so whose game gets changed first? :D

Either way, we consumers win!
 
One of the reasons for the poll is because I am considering getting a new phone. I really like the GS4. But I also like the IPhone.
I wonder how many people had an iPad and and android phone.
Turns out, according to the survey, not many. Seems one is either all in on android or OS system.
Guess ill wait for the 5.5 inch screen for IPHone.
:yes:
 
One of the reasons for the poll is because I am considering getting a new phone. I really like the GS4. But I also like the IPhone.
I wonder how many people had an iPad and and android phone.
Turns out, according to the survey, not many. Seems one is either all in on android or OS system.
Guess ill wait for the 5.5 inch screen for IPHone.
:yes:

One of the main advantages of Android, and its one that rarely gets mentioned (and often surprises people who are new to Droids) is how tightly integrated your devices can be made to perform together, thanks to Google and the Cloud.

For example, if I enter a new contact in gmail on my phone, it is accessible from my tablet. If I take a picture from my phone, same difference -- I can access it instantly from my other Android devices. And vice versa.

Same with all of our music, videos, documents -- it's a wonderful, seamless integration that make the OS a delight to work with.

That's why you rarely see people using "one of each" brand, because it negates one of the best parts of these "smart" devices.
 
One of the main advantages of Android, and its one that rarely gets mentioned (and often surprises people who are new to Droids) is how tightly integrated your devices can be made to perform together, thanks to Google and the Cloud.

For example, if I enter a new contact in gmail on my phone, it is accessible from my tablet. If I take a picture from my phone, same difference -- I can access it instantly from my other Android devices. And vice versa.

Same with all of our music, videos, documents -- it's a wonderful, seamless integration that make the OS a delight to work with.

That's why you rarely see people using "one of each" brand, because it negates one of the best parts of these "smart" devices.
I am an iPad/iPhone user now simply because Foreflight is a killer app for me. I got the iPad to run it, then realized I wanted an iPhone for backup.

However, before that I was Android phone person, along with a Windows and Google orientation.

All of my Apple and MS systems share contacts, calendars and everything else via Google and it's Cloud (and Drop Box). Everything is synched through Google, though of course it could also be done with all the Apple stuff but I was and am a Google person first. Point is that using Google as your synch and integration point works as well with the Apple stuff as the Android stuff as far as I can tell.

BTW, I am typing this on a MacBook Air which I like but will never love simply by virtue of where I grew up. I'll keep a Windows machines until the Windows legacy finishes choking the life out of Microsoft.
 
The poll wasn't constructed to give you the answer to your question. The Nexus thing made it confusing. And the poll wasn't up very long. Three choices would have been better:
Ipad and Iphone
Android tablet and Android Phone
Ipad and Android Phone
... a 4th would cover all bases: Android tablet and iPhone

I have a iPad, and an Android Phone... the wife has the opposite!

Apple did definitely get behind on the phone... folks want a larger screen and they missed it entirely.
 
The poll wasn't constructed to give you the answer to your question. The Nexus thing made it confusing. And the poll wasn't up very long. Three choices would have been better:
Ipad and Iphone
Android tablet and Android Phone
Ipad and Android Phone
... a 4th would cover all bases: Android tablet and iPhone

I respectfully disagree, I found out that most use the same operating system, by a wide majority whether android or Ios system. Either way, if there had been a majority or close that had one of one system and one of the other, that was an answer as well.
I do agree the poll could have been better constructed, but it was my first one and I was able to glean what I wanted.



Apple did definitely get behind on the phone... folks want a larger screen and they missed it entirely.

I totally agree, they missed this one big time since they had the Ipad mini it is weird that was not even on the "radar screen" or so it seems.


Thank you for the constructive input.
 
One of the main advantages of Android, and its one that rarely gets mentioned (and often surprises people who are new to Droids) is how tightly integrated your devices can be made to perform together, thanks to Google and the Cloud.

For example, if I enter a new contact in gmail on my phone, it is accessible from my tablet. If I take a picture from my phone, same difference -- I can access it instantly from my other Android devices. And vice versa.

Same with all of our music, videos, documents -- it's a wonderful, seamless integration that make the OS a delight to work with.

I wouldn't say that it's an advantage of Android, considering my iOS devices do all of those same things...

It is, however, an advantage of keeping all your devices on one platform. If someone owns and likes one device of one of the platforms, it makes sense to purchase another device on the same platform, regardless of which it is.

That's why you rarely see people using "one of each" brand, because it negates one of the best parts of these "smart" devices.

Yep. Not to mention, you'd have to buy all the apps again on the other platform, etc...
 
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