Dean
Pattern Altitude
If this has been posted before, sorry.
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exc..._Cirrus_StallAccident_Dissected_201722-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exc..._Cirrus_StallAccident_Dissected_201722-1.html
Try setting your pattern up correctly to begin with.
Try setting your pattern up correctly to begin with.
This pilot was said to have been making a 60 degree bank, which exceeds the 45 degree bank of the turnback. He began his first turn lower than a turnback should be commenced, and began his second turn at an altitude comparable to where a turnback would be rolling wings-level.This reminds me of the turnback debate a few weeks ago where I was castigated for suggesting that maneuvering flight with aggressive banks near the ground was a bad idea.
Right you are, including about the "mush out of the sky" part.The stock no rudder pedals Ercoupe was certified stall/spin proof and I believe lived up to that status. Of course they would still mush out of the sky and crash and modified ones would spin. Just saying...
The Cirrus is a fine airplane, fast, efficient, comfortable...
The type of person the Cirrus seems to attract frequently is not fine - the person who can throw down that kind of money is not a type B personality - they tend to be low flying time, impatient, demanding, cocky, just sure that their brains and their self made money will get them out of anything...
The real bad guy here is the CFI allowing the aircraft to get to 300 agl in other than a STABILIZED final landing configuration and position... He paid the ultimate price for his bad judgment..
denny-o [really old pilot who is not bold]
The gist of what I was told was that in any other airplane the CFI would have been absolutely fine letting this pilot get that far behind the approach.