One way or the other it ought to be fine in a 12V airplane, but obviously a paperwork has to be done.
I had a 496 "hard wired" into a bonanza once and was just curious if this could be done with this unit...I could do the cig plug though if I had to and neatly "hide" the wires etc....and thankfully mine works...
If it's wired into the aircraft electrical power system, it's at least a minor alteration to the aircraft and will require at least a logbook entry over a mechanic's signature. Whether it's a major or minor alteration seems to be a matter of some debate between various individual FSDO Airworthiness Inspectors, with less than explicit written guidance from AFS-300 on point, so make sure you ask an Airworthiness Inspector at your local FSDO before you do it or you could find yourself in the middle of an FAA food fight. If the FAA has issued anything recently to clearly and definitively settle this matter, I'm sure R&W will have something to say about this post, but otherwise, asking permission may be better choice than asking forgiveness.If it's not a permanent install what paperwork is needed?
I don't see why it couldn't be done with just a logbook entry.
If it draws power from the Cig plug it is not considered to be "Installed" no entry required.
but the Cessna cig plugs have an AD to disconnect them, that is why many won't work, from that plug.
If it's wired into the aircraft electrical power system, it's at least a minor alteration to the aircraft and will require at least a logbook entry over a mechanic's signature. Whether it's a major or minor alteration seems to be a matter of some debate between various individual FSDO Airworthiness Inspectors, with less than explicit written guidance from AFS-300 on point, so make sure you ask an Airworthiness Inspector at your local FSDO before you do it or you could find yourself in the middle of an FAA food fight. If the FAA has issued anything recently to clearly and definitively settle this matter, I'm sure R&W will have something to say about this post, but otherwise, asking permission may be better choice than asking forgiveness.
Interesting. Cig plug was dead on the 150 I trained in this summer and owner didn't know why. Perhaps this explains it. It appeared to be wired up, but we didn't delve too deeply into it. Are there no alternate means of compliance?
Not very big, since that's what the OP proposed.That's a big "IF"
You can connect it in a manor any way you want, but if you connect it in an airplane it's gotta by by the FAA's rules.when it is connected in a manor that can be connected and disconnected without tools it is not a modification.
Alligator clips? YGBSM! It might be legal, but I can't see it being smart or safe -- too much chance of something ending up touching something else and then "Oooh, that smell -- can you smell that smell?"For example, using alligator clips to connect to the bus and ground there is no modification to the aircraft.
If it's wired into the aircraft electrical power system, it's at least a minor alteration to the aircraft and will require at least a logbook entry over a mechanic's signature. Whether it's a major or minor alteration seems to be a matter of some debate between various individual FSDO Airworthiness Inspectors, with less than explicit written guidance from AFS-300 on point, so make sure you ask an Airworthiness Inspector at your local FSDO before you do it or you could find yourself in the middle of an FAA food fight. If the FAA has issued anything recently to clearly and definitively settle this matter, I'm sure R&W will have something to say about this post, but otherwise, asking permission may be better choice than asking forgiveness.
That's a big "IF"
when it is connected in a manner that can be connected and disconnected without tools it is not a modification.
For example, using alligator clips to connect to the bus and ground there is no modification to the aircraft. Plus the Yoke clamps are also no modification and thus need no paper.
How about using an alligator clip to make that connection?As an A&P I would install it using a CB and make a logbook entry. I consider connecting a wire or a CB to a DC bus bar as an elementary procedure.
How about using an alligator clip to make that connection?
Not very big, since that's what the OP proposed.
You can connect it in a manor any way you want, but if you connect it in an airplane it's gotta by by the FAA's rules.
No argument there, it's a matter of interpretation of the rules
Alligator clips? YGBSM! It might be legal, but I can't see it being smart or safe -- too much chance of something ending up touching something else and then "Oooh, that smell -- can you smell that smell?"
How about using an alligator clip to make that connection?
As an A&P I would install it using a CB and make a logbook entry. I consider connecting a wire or a CB to a DC bus bar as an elementary procedure.
The A&P doing the installation determines whether it's a major or minor installation.
Most people forget that, but there are rules to follow to be a legal installation
14 CFR 1.1
Major alteration means an alteration not listed in the aircraft, aircraft engine, or propeller specifications—
(1) That might appreciably affect weight, balance, structural strength, performance, powerplant operation, flight characteristics, or other qualities affecting airworthiness; or
(2) That is not done according to accepted practices or cannot be done by elementary operations.
Minor alteration means an alteration other than a major alteration.
How about chewing gum?Nah, duct tape is all you need.
How about chewing gum?
real world aviation you see this stuff not that it is good, simply a example in this case.
Interesting. Cig plug was dead on the 150 I trained in this summer and owner didn't know why. Perhaps this explains it. It appeared to be wired up, but we didn't delve too deeply into it. Are there no alternate means of compliance?