Impending, possible meat shortages

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    @Matthew How will the BBQr's compensate?
     
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    Pay more.

    Almost the whole bbq contest circuit has been canceled this year. Pigfest in Lakeland went off and Qlathe here happened because they were so early, but I think almost all the rest in the US have been canceled so far.
     
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    Meh. I could shoot enough meat in a day to last a year. The main reason I don't is because it's not a challenge. The deer aren't afraid of me. Dressing the deer is also a drag. But if it came down to me or Bambi, it would be an easy decision.

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    More panic from the media. There will only be a meat shortage if the media gets enough people wound up to create a shortage by buying more meat than they need ahead of the “coming shortage”. :rolleyes:

    Oh, there are obviously enough lemmings out there. Fortunately for the rest us meat is a lot more expensive than toilet paper.

     
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    Getting ready to trade toilet paper for cans of spam.
     
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    You can have my share of SPAM. I do not eat the stuff.
     
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    You nailed it. The media has been pushing the "Meat Shortage" rhetoric for a couple weeks now. And, the plight of the down trodden packing house workers as well. The attempted manipulation is all too easy to see through, and it's become a sad and blatant bastardization of a free media.......

    This morning I was all set to take Trumps advice on how to vaccinate myself against the horrible China virus. I already had the vet needles out in the tack room, but I couldn't find any Lysol.

    Media turds.
     
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    There are many vegans here, leaving more for me. :)
     
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    Sam's Club is a good place to get meat. Their restaurant customers aren't buying, so there's plenty for consumers.

    Rich
     
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    What about bleach instead?
     
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    They didn't say he said to use that? Can't find any anyhow.....
     
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    Me neither. Spam is one step above wieners and bologna which of course everyone knows, is lips and foreskins.
     
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    Hard to get any better (or fresher) than the local section at Whole Foods. They sell grass fed beef and various other meats from farms located 45 minutes away.
     
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    That’s gotta be in a 2:1 ratio, so it affects the texture. Lips and a**holes are 1:1...
     
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    Freezer full of venison hopefully a turkey or two in the next couple weeks, lots of fish in the lakes and rivers, not above eating a squirrels, rabbits or other small game. Chickens in the back yard for eggs. Garden will be going again soon.

    This is mostly media hype. Turn off your TV and get in the woods.
     
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    no, unlike toilet paper, meat processing plants are actually shutting down. Farmers are having to shoot livestock because they can’t feed them and there no place to take them. There is absolutely less supply in the system now.

    the longer lockdowns go on, the more permanent damage we do to the economy.
     
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    What do they do, slaughter the cow in the store so its freshest? LOL
     
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    Here we go again.............. What was your media source for that devastating news? We have a multitude of feed lots in our area, and absolutely nothing of the sort is taking place. Idiocy.
     
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    I'm sure this was in jest, but for my friends in the food processing industry I must declare it as false information.

    [But my view of "turkey bacon" is very different]
     
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    Yes it is. My company alone has culled 5,000,000 egg laying hens.

    This is from an industry trade journal.

    Beef Plant Closures:

    JBS in Souderton, PA: On March 31st, the JBS Souderton, Pa. plant “temporarily reduced production because several senior management team members have displayed flu-like symptoms”. The plant reopened Monday, April 20th. The facility can process about 2,500 head of cattle per day.

    National in Tama, IA: The company shuttered operations on April 11th after numerous employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The facility reopened Monday, April 20th. The plant can process about 1,100 head per day.

    JBS in Greeley, CO: On April 12th, JBS announced it closed its Greeley facility for deep cleaning after dozens of employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant is slated to reopen Friday, April 24th. However, some industry sources say a Monday, April 27th opening is more likely. The facility can process about 5,400 head per day.

    National in Dodge City, KS: On April 8, National Beef announced its first positive coronavirus case. The facility closed Thursday, April 16th through Tuesday, April 21st. The plant can process around 5,200 head per day.

    Tyson in Wallula, WA (indefinitely closed): On April 23rd, Tyson announced it will temporarily stop production until further notice to test all employees. The plant employs around 1,400 people and can process about 2,300 head per day.

    CTI Foods in King of Prussia, PA (processing plant): The hamburger grinding plant was closed due to coronavirus concerns. Wendell Young IV, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1776, said the plant has since been reopened.

    Cargill in Hazelton, PA (processing plant): On April 7th, Cargill announced that it is suspending operations at its Hazelton, Pa. facility to minimize the risk of spread between its employees. This location produces items such as ground beef and steaks and has since been reopened.



    Beef Plants Under Watch:

    JBS in Grand Island, NE: Roughly 237 cases of coronavirus were reported at the Grand Island plant Tuesday, April 21st. The plant employs around 3,600 people and can process about 5,200 head per day.

    Cargill in Fort Morgan, CO: At least 15 workers at the Cargill facility tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant is reducing shifts in order to minimize the risk of spread. The location employs around 2,100 people and can process about 4,700 head per day.

    Tyson in Dakota City, NE: On Tuesday, April 22nd, a labor union official said the plant had 23 workers who tested positive for the coronavirus, with more test results pending. Some industry sources have heard that the facility will be dark all next week, but details are elusive. The facility can process around 6,000 to 7,000 head per day.

    Aurora Packing Company in Aurora, IL: The beef plant was temporarily closed due to coronavirus concerns and has since reopened. The facility can process around 600 head per day.

    WR Reserve in Lincoln, NE (processing plant): At least ten workers have tested positive for the coronavirus at the Nebraska beef processing plant. The facility is located in Hastings, just south of Grand Island where several positive cases were reported at a JBS plant.




    Pork Plant Closures:

    Tyson in Columbus Junction, IA: On April 6th, Tyson announced it is suspending operations after more than two dozen employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant can process about 10,100 hogs per day. Tyson resumed limited operations on Monday, April 21st. Industry sources reported that the plant is currently operating at 50% capacity, roughly 5,050 head per day.

    Smithfield in Sioux Falls, SD (indefinitely closed): On April 12th, Smithfield closed its Sioux Falls plant indefinitely after hundreds of employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant can process about 19,500 hogs per day, which represents 4% to 5% of U.S. pork production.

    JBS in Worthington, MN (indefinitely closed): On Monday, April 20th, JBS announced the indefinite closure of its Worthington plant following a coronavirus outbreak. The facility can process around 20,000 hogs per day.

    Tyson in Waterloo, IA (indefinitely closed): On Thursday, April 16th, an outbreak was reported at the Tyson plant in Waterloo. On Tuesday, April 22nd, the company announced plans to indefinitely suspend operations. The facility employs around 2,700 people and can process about 19,000 hogs per day.

    Smithfield in Monmouth, IL (indefinitely closed): On Friday, April 17th it was announced that the Warren Country Health Department was investigating three confirmed cases of the coronavirus. On Friday, April 24th, Smithfield announced that it will suspend operations beginning next week until further notice. The plant can process around 12,600 head per day.

    Prime Pork in Windom, MN: On Tuesday, April 21st, Prime Pork announced that it would be closed until Friday, April 24th for deep cleaning. The facility can process around 5,200 hogs per day.

    Tyson in Logansport, IN: On Wednesday, April 22nd, Tyson announced that it will temporarily close its Logansport location for at least two weeks after 146 employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant is expected to stop all production by Saturday, April 25th. The facility can process around 15,400 hogs per day.

    Indiana Packing Corp. in Delphi, IN: On Friday, April 24th, Indiana Packing Corp. announced the temporary closure of their facility due to coronavirus concerns. Operations will be shuttered on Monday, April 27th. The plant is scheduled to reopen on May 8th and can process around 17,300 hogs per day.

    Fresh Mark in Salem, OH (processing plant): On Saturday, April 11th, the processing plant temporarily closed for deep cleaning. The facility produces items such as bacon, ham, and deli meats. The processing plant reopened Monday, April 20th.

    Smithfield in Martin City, MO (processing plant): The Missouri processing plant indefinitely closed on Wednesday, April 15th. The plant employs around 400 people and produces spiral and smoked hams. The facility receives supplies from the indefinitely closed Sioux Falls, Smithfield plant.

    Smithfield in Cudahy, WIS (processing plant): The Wisconsin processing plant closed on Wednesday, April 15th due to coronavirus concerns. The facility produces bacon and sausage and plans to reopen on April 29th.

    Burgers' Smokehouse in California, MO (processing plant): On April 16th, the company closed their facility after three employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The company is the largest producer of country ham in the United States. The facility plans to reopen on Thursday, April 30th.

    Hormel Foods Corp. in Rochelle, IL, and Alma, KS (processing plants): On Monday, April 20th, two manufacturing plants under Hormell Foods Corp. closed due to a coronavirus outbreak. The Rochelle location produces items including bacon and lunch meat. The Alma location manufactures meals under the Saucy Blues foodservice brand. Both facilities plan to reopen on May 4th.





    Pork Plants Under Watch:

    Seaboard in Guymon, OK: Seaboard confirmed its first positive coronavirus case at its Guymon location on Monday, April 13th. The plant is still currently operating and can process about 19,600 hogs per day.

    Smithfield in Tar Heel, NC: An employee at the Smithfield processing plant in Tar Heel, North Carolina, tested positive for the coronavirus on Saturday, Apri 18th. This is the largest facility in the United States with a capacity of around 33,500 hogs per day.

    Tyson in Madison, NE: Health officials are investigating a possible coronavirus outbreak at the plant. The facility employs around 1,200 people and can process about 8,000 hogs per day.

    Tyson in Perry, IA: Tyson halted operations at its Perry location on Monday, April 20th for deep cleaning. The facility has since reopened and can process around 7,600 hogs per day.

    Prestage Foods in Eagle Grove, IA: On Saturday, April 18th and Sunday, April 19th, it was confirmed that sixteen employees tested positive for the coronavirus at the plant. The facility can process around 10,000 hogs per


    Poultry Plant Closures:


    West Liberty Foods in West Liberty, IA: On April 10th, the processing plant closed for three days after three employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The plant processes turkey, beef, pork, and chicken for foodservice and retail. The facility reopened on April 14th.

    Empire Kosher Poultry in Mifflintown, PA: On April 3rd, the chicken processing plant closed for two weeks after two employees tested positive for the coronavirus. The facility reopened Monday, April 20th.
     
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    FIFY. I used to love Spam when I was a kid on camping trips. Haven't had it in years. Read the ingredients recently while at the grocery store and considering picking up a can just for old times' sake. Nope.. NOPE. It's nothing more than a really fatty salt block. ewwww.
     
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    Fried spam and potatoes is good stuff. You have to fry both of them nice and crispy.

    All the preservatives and salt and you will live forever. :p
     
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    I have been known to cut up cubes of spam to put in my Ramen noodles.
     
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    What happens to those 5,000,000 hens? Are they sold for meat? Boiled for broth/stock? Incinerated? Buried? Composted? One really big company cook-out? Other?
     
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    My brother-in-law runs an oil company, they've been living off deer and wild hog for a few years now.
     
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    The dairy farmers are also pouring out milk. I read that Publics is buying up as much milk as it can and giving it to food banks and shelters. Good on them.
     
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    OMG!

    The professional chicken expert again. Been there, done that. Lemmings and Sheeple, beware.
     
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    Sux for you guys. I've enough beans and rice to last until doomsday.
     
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    I looked in the fridge and seen my wife had bought some fresh carrots and broccoli. She don't eat that stuff so I asked if she bought it for me. "Nope ... I'm feeding the rabbits near the woods at the back of the property." Told her that was a good idea. Between them and the squirrels we'll do okay. She seemed a bit downhearted as she thinks about them as pets. That's fine ... until we start to get hungry and then she'll be doin' the shootin'. ;)
     
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    I'm not really sure how to take your tone, so I won't reply to that.
    But I have a LOT of respect for "The professional chicken expert".
     
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    This is good timing. I figured that if I loose 40 pounds plus remove the 15 pound vent blower motor, my Daughter can bring a friend along when we go flying.
     
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    A couple things about those beef packing plants: They are usually in very rural areas and are the largest employer. They get thousand of head of cattle each day. The surrounding feed lots truck those cattle in, 24 hrs a day. When the packing plants close, a very large percentage of the local population is out of work. The feed lots have many thousands of head of cattle with no place to send them. The ranchers that supply the feed lots with cattle have no place to send them. That's a whole lot of cattle with no future prospects. And that doesn't count the pork and chicken producers.
     
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    Anybody who doesn’t think this thing is getting to them eventually through their fresh food supply, at the least, is delusional.

    Most people are so bored they’re ordering all sorts of non important stuff through Amazon who’s had multiple warehouse outbreaks. Doing their damnedest to hide it, too. Firing any complainers about their warehouse and training practices.

    We’re ahead of most places with the distancing by a couple weeks and we’ve already seen the meat packing plant and a Super WalMart and two other grocery stores go down with multiple deaths.

    More to come. The math hasn’t changed.

    It’s silly to think we don’t see everyplace that packages, handles, and sells “essential” or even non-essential stuff get infected, closed, cleaned, reinfected, closed, cleaned... and that only accelerates as we go.

    Be going on a long time if the low infection numbers are accurate.

    It isn’t just the meat supply. It’s the everything supply. Everything humans touch.

    If your area hasn’t seen the grocery stores start to get hit, just be aware that they will. Again and again. It triggers unnecessary “outrage” and such, even though it was completely predictable and inevitable.
     
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