If you have a spare $20MM

172andyou said:
Are there airpark homes that don't? There is a lot of community property to be maintained at those.
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If you can afford the property tax even on 19.5 million, you can pay a bit to the HOA.

Our grass runway doesn't actually cost us as much as maintaining the paved private roads. We can't dedicate them to the state because I have a strange feeling they won't like us taxiing aircraft on the then and we cut all our signs down so that the wings clear them.
 
For that money I want a better location ,location is everything.
 
Heck, for 20mm you could buy several small airports and build houses at them. Then if you want neighbors you can sell lots.

My retirement dream is a hangar with an apartment in it. Seems like every airpark i look at has covenants requiring huge lavish homes. That's fine if that's what you want, but we'd like to spend more time traveling and less time at home. Our solution will probably be a modest house that's a few minutes drive to a public airport with a paved runway and instrument approaches and fuel.
 
172andyou said:
Are there airpark homes that don't? There is a lot of community property to be maintained at those.
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D83 is essentially an airpark, but it's maintained by the FAA. It's located in the middle of the wine country in northern California, a nice fairly rural neighborhood, and 100 miles from KOAK or KSFO. It's also a more affordable area(for California standards). The homes have a connection to the runway, where you are expected to taxi across a county road. It's grandfathered in, which is why the FAA allows this. The rule is, as long as you pay your yearly tie-down fee for the airport, you are able to taxi onto the airport from your home. The yearly tiedown fee is about 100 bucks per plane, so it is fairly reasonable compared to most HOA fees of airparks. (and its not your responsibility to manage, except for your taxiway onto the runway). Most of the lots are a little bit over an acre.

If a property goes on sale, you may want to take a look. Looked at properties there before, but at the time, none were what we needed. Otherwise, I would highly recommend looking at other similar airports, which the FAA manages, but the skypark section is grandfathered in.
 
Well, I may not have a 1/3 acre house (!!!), but you know what I do have? A nice, green lawn. :rofl:

And for a hangar that big to only have one airplane in it is a travesty. If I had enough $$$ for a $20mil house plus a $10mil jet, I'd rather have a $5 mil house, the jet, and $15mil worth of other airplanes. Backcountry, aerobatic, amphibious, etc...

I don't think I would know what to do with a house that size. It looks so big you'd have to have a bike to ride around to go get things from other parts of the house when you need them.

It sure looks like a great place if you like to be the life of the party and host, though. And you can play several sports every day if you want. But a house like that requires a full time chef and a whole crew of cleaning people.

I'm with Jim:

Jim K said:
Heck, for 20mm you could buy several small airports and build houses at them. Then if you want neighbors you can sell lots.

My retirement dream is a hangar with an apartment in it. Seems like every airpark i look at has covenants requiring huge lavish homes. That's fine if that's what you want, but we'd like to spend more time traveling and less time at home. Our solution will probably be a modest house that's a few minutes drive to a public airport with a paved runway and instrument approaches and fuel.
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Check out 6P3 if you want to stay in the midwest. Poplar Grove is pretty cool too, though I think the houses are bigger they're not stupid.

If I had all the dollars, I'd probably have two primary residences at airparks - Maybe one at Alpine (WY) or somewhere in Idaho for the summer, and one somewhere in TX for the winter. But I'd want to go to new and different places for my travels.
 
DaleB said:
Woohoo! Imma buy that sucka and AirBnB it.
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Based on a relative rate of property value to nightly rate from my recent AirBnB stays, I’d estimate a cost of about $8,000-12,000/night. I’m thinking that the location isn’t going to draw a huge crowd (it’s not like Queen Creek, AZ is the Amalfi Coast or even Vegas) so you might get 30 nights/year? On the high side, that’s $360k out of which Uncle Sam will take an absurd amount. Let’s say you have a good tax guy and you walk away with $300k. According to the Zillow payment calculator, that would cover 2.5 months of the mortgage!

(I know you were being facetious)
 
I can't wrap my head around that place. only 3 bedrooms? What's the purpose? You can throw a massive party there, but I guess you'd put your guests on the floor or billiards table.... and the hangar, you could get 4 private jets in that thing!
Why?

I've got just over 4,200 SF with 5 people, and I've got well over 500 SF of it that never gets used....and more that only get used when we have guests....
 
Airpark or not, that house is nuts. The kitchen island has an island. Love the windows for the hangar so you can admire your jet while entertaining in the kitchen.

Even if I could afford that, it wouldn't be for me. I don't have friends and I don't entertain.
 
midwestpa24 said:
and I don't entertain.
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even if you did entertain, how does this thing make sense?

Imagine throwing a wedding...or a company Christmas party.... or just invite a few hundred of your closest friends
Yeah, there's enough kitchen counter space for a large catering company to go at it.... and enough open space to have a dance floor, and several other venues away from the noise or whatever... but how often is anyone really going to do something like that? and If you did, wouldn't at least most of the time some fraction of those folks you want to invite to stay the night.
 
Brad W said:
even if you did entertain, how does this thing make sense?

Imagine throwing a wedding...or a company Christmas party.... or just invite a few hundred of your closest friends
Yeah, there's enough kitchen counter space for a large catering company to go at it.... and enough open space to have a dance floor, and several other venues away from the noise or whatever... but how often is anyone really going to do something like that? and If you did, wouldn't at least most of the time some fraction of those folks you want to invite to stay the night.
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I will say that when we lived in Mexico (we live in the sticks in Wisconsin now), we would pretty regularly have parties with 50-ish people and bands. We would also sometimes host fund raising events with 75 or more people. So if I was in the market for a $20M house (ha!) anyway, I would view it as a feature to be able to do that kind of thing.
 
Brad W said:
even if you did entertain, how does this thing make sense?

Imagine throwing a wedding...or a company Christmas party.... or just invite a few hundred of your closest friends
Yeah, there's enough kitchen counter space for a large catering company to go at it.... and enough open space to have a dance floor, and several other venues away from the noise or whatever... but how often is anyone really going to do something like that? and If you did, wouldn't at least most of the time some fraction of those folks you want to invite to stay the night.
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When you have money and want to look important, you are always open to having a "look at me" party. Having the elite and powerful come to your events so you can rub elbows with them. Something like this is beyond the friends and family level parties.
 
OMG!!! Thanks for letting me know!
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And with all my hardware being SAE, I don't even need it! :rolleyes:
 
It's not for me. The bowling alley is too close to the shooting range. But I wonder if it has a dozen or so rooms that aren't conforming bedrooms but have attached bathrooms and closets. The house I grew up in would have zero bedrooms if you go by today's standards. I can picture someone with the money to build a house like that also having the wherewithal to get sideways with some HOA restriction on bedrooms and teach them a lesson about loopholes.
 
iamtheari said:
It's not for me. The bowling alley is too close to the shooting range. But I wonder if it has a dozen or so rooms that aren't conforming bedrooms but have attached bathrooms and closets. The house I grew up in would have zero bedrooms if you go by today's standards. I can picture someone with the money to build a house like that also having the wherewithal to get sideways with some HOA restriction on bedrooms and teach them a lesson about loopholes.
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Our governor is famous for removing toilets from his houses to reduce the number of "bathrooms" for tax purposes.
 
iamtheari said:
It's not for me. The bowling alley is too close to the shooting range. But I wonder if it has a dozen or so rooms that aren't conforming bedrooms but have attached bathrooms and closets. The house I grew up in would have zero bedrooms if you go by today's standards. I can picture someone with the money to build a house like that also having the wherewithal to get sideways with some HOA restriction on bedrooms and teach them a lesson about loopholes.
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I looked at all the pictures and floor plan - There are no such rooms. There's certainly plenty of floor space for air mattresses or other temporary accommodations, but there won't be much privacy.

I suppose that the bathrooms, dressing rooms, etc on those detached suites could offer some, but it doesn't look like it was being set up for loopholes. Maybe the "loft" in the hangar could be a fourth BR.

Jim K said:
Our governor is famous for removing toilets from his houses to reduce the number of "bathrooms" for tax purposes.
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At least he isn't in prison yet. Your state kinda has a problem with that sort of thing...

What does one prisoner in the Illinois state pen say to the other? "Food was better in here when you were governor."
 
In the Washington suburbs, years ago, there was a house with a similar ratio of bathrooms to bedrooms. Also many indoor garages. Very private access to the interior.

The rooms next to the extra bathrooms had young ladies who liked convenience, and large bills. Cash only. You also paid your parking fee, cash only, as you entered. Limited clientele, by reference only membership.

The place was shut down.
 
geezer said:
In the Washington suburbs, years ago, there was a house with a similar ratio of bathrooms to bedrooms. Also many indoor garages. Very private access to the interior.

The rooms next to the extra bathrooms had young ladies who liked convenience, and large bills. Cash only. You also paid your parking fee, cash only, as you entered. Limited clientele, by reference only membership.

The place was shut down.
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It wasn't taken over and run by the Feds like the one in Nevada?
 
No, it was closed by the local police, from a neighborly tip.

Downtown DC, near the FBI headquarters, agents ran a topless saloon for over a year. Siezed asset of a fraud scheme, had to be maintained until the conviction. Sold immediately after conviction.

How long did the Feds keep the one in Texas? They may have had no choice, due to legal issues.
 
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