IA's required to sign off on N/A AD's?

[John B Reed]

I prefer just a simple list of AD's in a compliance sheet like they used to do back in the old days.

 

[John B Reed]

Why don’t you charge for your time doing that

Good idea.

 

[John B Reed]

If I were paying for this research I'd expect a report with your findings. I do a spreadsheet of all applicable ADs (AD log) with the disposition. This reduces the work load for the next guy and gives the owner an easily readable record (vs digging thru the log books).

Of course. The nature of the AD research automatically develops a record list. It 's a challenge to come up with a better way of doing it rather than trust in the third party result set for model. The best idea I can think of right now is templates for a model with likely items. Mechanics trust the printout and previous people doing the Annuals when they go to do the compliance sheet. And for the most part what the third party applications have is reasonably accurate; although the compliance search is determined by a profile done of equipment installed. First the profile then the search, then the evaluation of AD's. It's okay if the aircraft comes back over time but the initial on-boarding is a bear. The last job I had was for a large flying club and even then there was one mechanic dedicated to doing the on-boarding and maintenance recording. It enabled us to focus on the aircraft work. He also was a specialist doing an excellent job. But generally, in smaller maintenance shops they haven't got a person like that. The bigger the operation the more likely there is of excellent recordation. When the income isn't just dependent on who comes through the hangar door then the operation gets more efficient.

 

[Bell206]

First the profile then the search, then the evaluation of AD's. It's okay if the aircraft comes back over time but the initial on-boarding is a bear.

I always found it depends on the specific aircraft whether the AD research was going to be drawn out or reasonable. But if you’re talking about performing the Appliance AD survey or checklist portion then yes it can be rather time-consuming especially on an older Part 91 SE aircraft with numerous 3rd party upgrades.

There are methods to make the AD work more tolerable and profitable. One, perhaps educate your owners that they actually have the higher-level regulatory responsibility in maintaining the aircraft AD listing and not you. Another I find that works is to get your owners to sign-up for ADLog. If you assist in its set-up and the owner maintains its, that is about as close to a “AD template” you can get. However, if they don’t want to spend the money then at a minimum request they allow you to create an AD compliance listing per the existing guidance as shown below. It would give you the specific info you need plus give the owner a method to comply with their responsibilities under 91.403 and 91.417.

Regardless, while the AD side can be a pandora’s box for some aircraft, there are simple ways to straighten it out and get paid for your time to comply with it.

 

[John B Reed]

I always found it depends on the specific aircraft whether the AD research was going to be drawn out or reasonable. But if you’re talking about performing the Appliance AD survey or checklist portion then yes it can be rather time-consuming especially on an older Part 91 SE aircraft with numerous 3rd party upgrades.

There are methods to make the AD work more tolerable and profitable. One, perhaps educate your owners that they actually have the higher-level regulatory responsibility in maintaining the aircraft AD listing and not you. Another I find that works is to get your owners to sign-up for ADLog. If you assist in its set-up and the owner maintains its, that is about as close to a “AD template” you can get. However, if they don’t want to spend the money then at a minimum request they allow you to create an AD compliance listing per the existing guidance as shown below. It would give you the specific info you need plus give the owner a method to comply with their responsibilities under 91.403 and 91.417.

Regardless, while the AD side can be a pandora’s box for some aircraft, there are simple ways to straighten it out and get paid for your time to comply with it.

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Thanks for the ideas, and I like the simple compliance record. I am familiar with Adlog and like the way it is presented. Just simple paper in a folder with easy to see compliance history for recurring and applicable AD's.