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I remember something a while ago about being able to get your A&P license with a certain amount of supervised hours? How many is that? I ask because I'll be doing a 100 hour internship through my highschool with an A&P at a shop at Rocky Mountain Metro.
 
Mtns2Skies said:
I remember something a while ago about being able to get your A&P license with a certain amount of supervised hours? How many is that? I ask because I'll be doing a 100 hour internship through my highschool with an A&P at a shop at Rocky Mountain Metro.
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Essentially you need 30 months experience for both airframe and powerplant. If you are working just for one (airframe or powerplant) then it's 18 months.

Have the A&P you are working under write a letter, document the work done and time spent and have him sign it with his certificate number. It will count towards your experience.
 
Mtns2Skies said:
I remember something a while ago about being able to get your A&P license with a certain amount of supervised hours? How many is that? I ask because I'll be doing a 100 hour internship through my highschool with an A&P at a shop at Rocky Mountain Metro.
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Not near enough. The magic number is somewhere around 1600. You can look it up on FAA/AMT or look at Emily Griffith or Redstone for details. And just like flying, there are written exams & 2 practicals (Airframe and Powerplant). The General practial gets folding into whichever (A or P) you take first.

14 CFR Part 147
FAA 8083-30 Chp 13 for details

http://www.egos-school.com/trades/public/Airframeprograms

Look up Redstone on your own.
 
Rotor&Wing said:
Essentially you need 30 months experience for both airframe and powerplant. If you are working just for one (airframe or powerplant) then it's 18 months.

Have the A&P you are working under write a letter, document the work done and time spent and have him sign it with his certificate number. It will count towards your experience.
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Isn't that halved if you train at a school?
 
alfadog said:
Isn't that halved if you train at a school?
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I think so, as the A&P school next to my airport has a two-year program. I can attend free after I retire, and be the worst student in the history of the program. Most days I don't even know which way to turn a wrench.
 
I believe I remember hearing somewhere (could be dead wrong, I'll freely admit it...) that experimental builders could get their build hours included in this under certain circumstances?

I'm not talking about a repairmans certificate - we know that the experimental builder gets that for the plane he's built - but I could swear I heard someone say that you could count at least a portion of your build hours towards a full-blown A&P, under the right circumstances.
 
There are many community colleges with aviation maintenance technician programs that get you from zero to A&P in two academic years with 1900 hours of training time using approved curricula under Part 147, which is the maintenance equivalent of Part 141 for pilots/flight instructors.

However, the basic Part 65 requirement is 30 months of experience for A&P. IIRC, there is an equivalence table allowing you to meet that requirement by logging some number of hours for each month required so folks not working full-time at it can get that experience. That's how homebuilders can get credit for the work they've done.
 
Ron Levy said:
There are many community colleges with aviation maintenance technician programs that get you from zero to A&P in two academic years with 1900 hours of training time using approved curricula under Part 147, which is the maintenance equivalent of Part 141 for pilots/flight instructors.

However, the basic Part 65 requirement is 30 months of experience for A&P. IIRC, there is an equivalence table allowing you to meet that requirement by logging some number of hours for each month required so folks not working full-time at it can get that experience. That's how homebuilders can get credit for the work they've done.
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Yes, I just checked George T. Baker and their program is 30 months for prereqs plus A and P. So similar amount of time. I would think a more rounded education, though.
 
School will teach you more about everything, working teaches you more about specific things.
 
Sorry for raising a dead topic. Thought I'd add something.

The 30 months is usually considered as full-time, 40 hour work week (see http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/lou/local_more/media/CE17-050-F1_A&P.pdf

where it says: "In evaluating part time practical experience an 18-months (or 30 months) based on a standard 40-hour workweek is acceptable. The months need not be consecutive. A standard workweek has 8 hours per day for 5 days per week, thus totaling 40 hours per week and approximately 160 hours per month"

so we are talking about 30X160 hrs = 4,800 hours. This is more than twice the ~2,000 hours required by an approved A&P curriculum (mine was ~2,100). Also remember, that the FAA will want to see at least half of the relevant topics covered (jet engines, piston engines, wood&fabric, composites, metal etc) and this is just to take the test--the examiner can ask you on any of those topics.
 
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