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Something is seriously wrong. How can a soccer coach be on this chart?
 
Keep in mind that most of those public employees receive a bulk of their money from boosters, not the tax payers. I was shocked to hear that the University of South Florida president had the same type of deal. Most of her money came from private sources.
 
wabower said:
Something is seriously wrong. How can a soccer coach be on this chart?
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It's New Hampshire. The second highest paid guy is probably the guy that drives the snow plow.
 
JOhnH said:
It's New Hampshire. The second highest paid guy is probably the guy that drives the snow plow.
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No, New Hampshire is a Hockey Coach. Which is what it should be nationwide.
 
JeffDG said:
No, New Hampshire is a Hockey Coach. Which is what it should be nationwide.
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I changed my mind. I don't want to merge with Canada any more if you guys think Hockey coaches deserve more than a snow plow driver.

But you are right. New Hampshire's highest paid is a hockey coach whereas wabower said soccer. But my old eyes can't find "soccer" on that map on my monitor.
 
JOhnH said:
I changed my mind. I don't want to merge with Canada any more if you guys think Hockey coaches deserve more than a snow plow driver.

But you are right. New Hampshire's highest paid is a hockey coach whereas wabower said soccer. But my old eyes can't find "soccer" on that map on my monitor.
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Damn Yanks...you realize that people do multiple things, right?...Hockey Coaches are ALSO snow-plow drivers.
 
Henning said:
Time for new glasses Wayne, soccer isn't on the map.
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If you're from the south, not much difference in soccer and hockey, soccer is a gay form of hockey. :D:D
 
jonnyjetprop said:
Keep in mind that most of those public employees receive a bulk of their money from boosters, not the tax payers. I was shocked to hear that the University of South Florida president had the same type of deal. Most of her money came from private sources.
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Not in the Big 10. The money comes from the university.
 
Clip4 said:
You may not pass your next physical since you can't see the green in the top right corner of the map.
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I might need new glasses too, but I see "hockey"
 
bartmc said:
Another great thing is that the ROI probably very high for these employees so they are making money for their public institutions. Nick Sabans salary is probably a rounding error in the amount of money he's put in the books for Alabama.
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There have been a bunch of studies about this. There is an ROI in excess of the costs of the sports in a handful of schools (Alabama might be one, for sure Penn State was). The *vast* majority are money toilets that take resources that might have otherwise been used for actual education.
 
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't recall seeing any studies like that. Can you link to any? I know that at Georgia Tech the football program primarily funded most of the other sports. Basketball may have been self sufficient some years, but not all. And most major colleges gain a lot from the publicity of their football programs that enable them to attract other sources funding. And Georgia Tech is peanuts compared to UGA.

rwellner98 said:
There have been a bunch of studies about this. There is an ROI in excess of the costs of the sports in a handful of schools (Alabama might be one, for sure Penn State was). The *vast* majority are money toilets that take resources that might have otherwise been used for actual education.
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bartmc said:
Typically the Football team will subsidize the others. Some sports bring in exactly $0.00 directly, like soccer, softball etc... Some folks "blame" Title IX for that. I am aware of one university that won't field a baseball team because they would also have to add a couple of women's sports, for which there is no demand, to be in compliance with Title IX, so they just don't do it.
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EXCEPT the Lady Vols at Tennessee! We do some advertising through our dealer group and the Lady Vols are more popular than the men's basketball team and I think more expensive for advertising! :D At least they were while Pat Summit was coaching. :(
Football supports all sports except basketball at most colleges and even high school athletic departments.
Baseball is almost revenue neutral, probably loses money in most colleges, and all high schools. Volleyball, fencing, swimming, tennis all the other sports are money drains at most schools, just the cost of the programs, not counting the scholarships!
Very few non-football college sports are "profitable" to the schools, there are isolated programs that have very competitive teams that do draw large crowds, but they are few and far between. ;)
 
I know one of the folks on that list. Yes, he has a comfortable income, most of that is not from his goverment gig but from his clinical job. Also has an ATP and owns a nice plane ;-)
 
Clip4 said:
Not in the Big 10. The money comes from the university.
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Yeah because $200 million wasn't just given to University of Michigan by an Alumni...

Oh wait...

http://www.freep.com/article/201309...-receives-record-setting-200-million-donation

On Wednesday, the party was for real estate developer and Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, who is giving the university $200 million for its athletic department and business school.
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And those 113,000+ seats 7 times a year at an average upwards of $75/ticket aren't bringing in any money either.

But it's good to see you perfected the ability to breathe CH4 in place of O2.
 
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Yes, there is a big bubble in professional sports (and I include D-I football and basketball in the group). Look at how much the Dodgers were just sold for (and what they were purchased for not too long ago). Look at the premium ESPN charges (you'd be amazed at what portion of a cable/satellite bill goes to just that one channel). And then it goes to the players and coaches salaries.

But to think that the collegiate coaches huge salaries are somehow being funded with our tax dollars is a stretch. In some schools (I believe UT is one), the revenue from the football program alone subsidizes all of the other athletics programs combined.

(From a public funding standpoint, I'm much more concerned/bothered by the enormous pension liabilities our elected officials have signed up for but haven't completely owned up to).
 
Yeah, but when have underfunded and/or unbooked retirement costs ever been a problem for corporate America? Oh, wait . . .:wink2:

Sam D said:
Yes, there is a big bubble in professional sports (and I include D-I football and basketball in the group). Look at how much the Dodgers were just sold for (and what they were purchased for not too long ago). Look at the premium ESPN charges (you'd be amazed at what portion of a cable/satellite bill goes to just that one channel). And then it goes to the players and coaches salaries.

But to think that the collegiate coaches huge salaries are somehow being funded with our tax dollars is a stretch. In some schools (I believe UT is one), the revenue from the football program alone subsidizes all of the other athletics programs combined.

(From a public funding standpoint, I'm much more concerned/bothered by the enormous pension liabilities our elected officials have signed up for but haven't completely owned up to).
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wabower said:
Yeah, but when have underfunded and/or unbooked retirement costs ever been a problem for corporate America? Oh, wait . . .:wink2:
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That's ok Wayne, because the government would never step in and bail them out. Oh, wait...:wink2:
 
Not surprised to see a plastic surgeon earning the most in Nevada... in Las Vegas alone, there's enough silicone to fill the Grand Canyon. :rolleyes:
 
Fascinating chart.

If you looked for the lowest paid public employees, there's a chance that might be a coach, too. A part-time coach at a junior high.

Sports must have the most extreme range of salaries of any occupation. Compare professional baseball players in Class A minor league ($1100 per month) to major league players ($3.4 million per season average). That's about a 500-fold variation in salary from entry level to top level. You can't imagine much more than about a two-fold variation for nurses, teachers, car mechanics, etc.
 
JOhnH said:
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't recall seeing any studies like that. Can you link to any? I know that at Georgia Tech the football program primarily funded most of the other sports. Basketball may have been self sufficient some years, but not all. And most major colleges gain a lot from the publicity of their football programs that enable them to attract other sources funding. And Georgia Tech is peanuts compared to UGA.
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Most recently I heard that during an interview with someone who used to be a big-wig at havard. I don't remember what book he was peddling, but it was basically about how college prices have gotten out of control and, as a nation, that's not a good thing.

I was able to google up some stuff pretty easily to support the notion though:

e.g. http://reason.com/archives/2011/10/14/stop-funding-college-sports

Most college athletic departments are a net drain on the budget. Three years ago, the NCAA issued a report that found most athletic departments operate in the red. A more recent analysis by Bloomberg found the same thing: 46 of the 53 schools it looked at subsidized their sports programs. The money usually comes from sources such as student activity fees, such as that charged at Virginia Commonwealth University. Earlier this year VCU jacked up its fee by $50 to help fund the Rams basketball program.

A story last year in USA Today reported that "at least six schools—all in Virginia—charged each of their students more than $1,000 as an athletics fee for the 2008-09 school year. That ranged from 10 percent to more than 23 percent of the total tuition and mandatory-fee charges for in-state students." Yet some students never attend so much as a single basketball or football game—never mind a lacrosse match or rowing competition.

There are some exceptions. Depending on the year, one to two dozen athletic departments around the country turn a profit. Those are the ones such as Virginia Tech with huge football programs (or, occasionally, great basketball). At those schools, the football and men's basketball teams end up subsidizing all the rest—from women's basketball to men's tennis.
 
Few Zamboni drivers get death threats. Coaches on the other hand . . . .
 
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