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Flood damage in Nashville (not already posted, I hope):
 

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ug. too bad they couldn't have flown them to higher ground.
 
Is that Cornelia Fort or John Thune?
 
ScottM said:
What airport in the Nashville area is that?
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Not sure - its just a picture out of a news story from an AP photographer.

I just looked at the AP website and found some more images (photographer is Jeff Roberson). I tried to paste them in, but couldn't get it to work.

Caption says "Cornelia Fort Airpark - Tuesday May 4, 2010"

Here's the whole web-page where I saw the picture:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
 
SCCutler said:
Hull insurance > plane's value.
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That's one.
Or, they could be like me. I'm the director of emergency management. If that happens around here, the plane will be the last thing on my to-do list. It's entirely possible those folks were too busy saving their houses to worry about the plane.
 
PilotAlan said:
That's one.
Or, they could be like me. I'm the director of emergency management. If that happens around here, the plane will be the last thing on my to-do list. It's entirely possible those folks were too busy saving their houses to worry about the plane.
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From what I have heard from folks who live there, even if people were concerned about their plane the roads may have been flooded and impassable.
 
I think airports are a lot like marinas, where some boats never leave the dock and from the looks of them, haven't seen their owners in a long time. In today's market those planes could also belong to people who have lost their medicals or their interest, or both, but don't want to sell them during a buyers market. The planes just sit there.

I had an old friend I haven't seen in years stop by yesterday and she told me that her husband had died a few years ago. Her husband and his best friend were both pilots and shared her husbands small airplane, a Cessna of some sort. She and her husband were fairly well off, so rather than selling the bird or letting it sit, she just gave it to him.

I asked her if she had any more old airplanes, like a P-51 sitting in the barn or something. She laughed and told me to keep on dreaming.

John
 
That is Cornelia Fort. Here's another pic that one of my EAA buddies took. :frown3:
 

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Back in Fresno we had a P-navajo show that looked like it had been in a flood, lots of sediment laying in the belly below the floorboards. The flood theory was confirmed when one of my mechanics found a dried-up frog in the belly. The stories some planes could tell.

Kevin
 
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Looks like I might finally be able to afford my own plane.

What a shame.
 
Unfortunately most have no idea of the destruction in mid-TN. It is truly devastating. :frown3:
 
I wonder what will happen to Colemill. Their core market, the conversion of twins to higher-powered engines, had been dwindling for a couple of years. The airport was recently put up for sale, unless they had very good insurance, this may just be the end of both, the shop and the airport.
 
Geico266 said:
Something to be said for a high wing on floats.
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Anything on floats. I know what I would have done. I've got a bunch of empty 55 gallon plastic drums. A few of those babies would have gotten lashed to the wings, nose, and tail.
 
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EdFred said:
Anything on floats. I know what I would have done. I've got a bunch of empty 55 gallon plastic drums. A few of those babies would have gotten lashed to the wings, nose, and tail.
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Interesting idea. You can get about 400 lbs. of flotation per barrel. Getting the barrels positioned to balance might be a little tricky, plus you'd have to tether the plane so it doesn't float away, but it's better than losing your plane altogether.
 
Holy wow...some of those pictures are just so.....sad. :(
 
Trapper John said:
Interesting idea. You can get about 400 lbs. of flotation per barrel. Getting the barrels positioned to balance might be a little tricky, plus you'd have to tether the plane so it doesn't float away, but it's better than losing your plane altogether.
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Yep, I would figure one on either side of the main gear, one behind the nose gear, and one somewhere in the rear fuselage/empennage. Though, I suppose I wouldn't need the one in the rear so much. Of course the tricky part would be determining how much rope to tether with so it doesn't end up on top of another plane, and yet enough so it isn't held down underwater.
 
I think I would go the inflatable raft route. A big one under the fuselage and then a couple of inflatable kayaks under the wings. Far easier to secure than the barrels.
 
Anything inflatable carries the risk of deflation. Might be better yet to use blocks of dock foam - no chance of losing air.
 
ScottM said:
I think I would go the inflatable raft route. A big one under the fuselage and then a couple of inflatable kayaks under the wings. Far easier to secure than the barrels.
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Nah, a couple of ratchet/friction straps and it's good. Plus, with all the crap floating in the river, inflatable could go pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. These barrels are supposedly drop-tested from 4-5 feet when full and don't break.
 
Trapper John said:
Anything inflatable carries the risk of deflation. Might be better yet to use blocks of dock foam - no chance of losing air.
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ScottM said:
An even better idea!
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Sounds perfect- easily attached, shaped for certain locations, can use some around the periphery to float, stabilize and protect from damage resulting from drifting debris.
 
flyersfan31 said:
JOKING!!!!! JOKING!!!!!

Don't sue me!!!!!! It's a joke!!!!
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Dear FlyersFan31:

No, the N-numbers sadly shown in the Nashville flood are not on my website.

It's great that you can be a "stay-at-home" Dad and own a 2009 Piper Matrix.

But there are some of us on this website, me included, that have to earn a living every day.

And, no matter how much insurance they may or may not have, there's still a lot of strife and difficult days ahead for Colemill and and everyone in Nashville, at the airport, or otherwise.

To make fun of the situation shows a lot.

And crass comments, even if meant as a joke, are harmful and in poor taste. Some of your postings are borderline slander.

I am glad you are a stay at home Dad and things have worked out well for you to the extent you can also, in addition to staying at home, have an expensive Piper Matrix.

And you might, if the thought hits you, spend more time being thankful for what you have, than make insensitive comments or trying to hurt people that are not as lucky as you in life.

Just a thought.

Barron Thomas
 
ScottM said:
How are you holding up?
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Personally ok. A lot of folks I know are devastated and have lost all they have. Unfortunately none had flood insurance as they weren't in a "flood zone" (that definition just changed). Thanks for asking, Scott.
 
Good luck Kevin.
 
kevin47881 said:
Personally ok. A lot of folks I know are devastated and have lost all they have. Unfortunately none had flood insurance as they weren't in a "flood zone" (that definition just changed). Thanks for asking, Scott.
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Yuck.

Cedar Rapids was in a somewhat similar situation last year. I think the city ended up bulldozing a lot of the flooded area and just starting from scratch.
 
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