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Discussion in 'Cool Places to Fly' started by Diana, Mar 9, 2007.
Poetic justice would insist on a stop at Pioneer Field in Oshkosh.
Yeah. And that would put you very close to 68C, which I can't believe I couldn't convince you to go to - It should be a mandatory stop on any trip like yours!
What you could do is make the swing up through Wisconsin, hit Pioneer and Central County and head on up into the UP and go to 6Y9, then cross at the Mackinac Bridge to the lower peninsula and go to your Michigan destinations.
Diana please consider coming my way to:
Usually a DC3 and a Stearman on field plus a plethora of vintage aircraft, a true step back in time.
You might consider a stop at Antique Airfield in southeast Iowa. It's just a couple miles west of me and has the Airpower Museum on field that has a ton of cool stuff to look through. It is a private field and I don't know the owners well enough to say how easy it is to land there w/o being a member. http://aaa-apm.org/info/airfield.html
Let's see, FDK has a grass strip, and I'd fly to get you. You ought to do the Udvar Hazy Air & Space Museum while you're in the neighborhood.
I also checked with a friend whose son owns a grass strip south of here, Hartwood. He does have a fuel tank, but there probably wouldn't be anyone around to get some fuel. It is outside the ADIZ, but it's under an MOA.
I'll keep looking.
Jason, that looks like a wonderful airfield! I'll put it on the list of possibilities. Have you flown in there?
Wow, who knew such a neat place was quietly tucked away up there. I had never heard of it before. I'll call the airport manager and see about landing there. Thanks!
It is Bob or Brent Taylor. It should not be a problem landing there, as far as they are concerned.
Re: Dog Island
Wow, talk about an out of the way and unique place! What do you do when you get there? Would you need to have a flotation device to cross the water?
It was the first airport I kept my 150 at!
Its a great field with some really interesting people and planes...and a great story.
Recently (within the last 5 years) it was privately owned and was going to be sold -- the people in the town saw the writing on the wall i.e. the beautiful open space would be turned into McMansions and the people said NO WAY.
The town actually bought the airfield to save it from development!
Diana the views are great, the people too, the Stearman does acro shows above the field on nice summer nights, and people bring lawnchairs and watch.
If you do make it a stop, consider the tour and clam chowder on me.
Mike, thanks for all the great information! I hope to try to make that flight out to Dog Island. What are the chances that you will be around to go along too?
Re: Twenty-Three State, U.S. Grass Strip Tour
Mike, thank you for the generous offer!
I hope to...if I can get access to the internet somehow.
Re: Twenty-Three State, U.S. Grass Strip Tour
jCircle the dome at 100' and you can use my wi-fi router!
You'll be close enough, Diana, I've heard rumors of a grass trip in Northeastern NM. Its called Price or something, and its near Mount Dora. I never had the opportunity to fly up that way, but maybe you can confirm or deny its presence on your trip. It mysteriously disappeared from some sources of data one day without any "closed" notams or anything. I think Steve and I were looking at it about a year and half ago, and he found it in his EAA airport directory. Both AOPA and the AFD (and airnav) no longer list it though,
If it exists, it is the only grass strip that exists in New Mexico.
Re: Dog Island
I wouldn't bother. 3 miles is a pretty easy glide in most GA planes. Just cross with plenty of altitude and spiral down over the field. On your departure do a climbing spiral over the field until you have sufficient altitude to glide across.
I have no idea what the glide ratio of your Citabria would be though...I don't imagine a 3 mile glide is out of the question with some altitude.
Ken wouldn't it be easier for her to change the routing on the lower MI airports and hit GDW I think it was last, then head up and over the lake from there. Then back down Eastern WI to Pioneer Field?
Well, I love flying around Wisconsin and hope some day to fly to the Mackinac area. You all have some great suggestions.
Here is the latest tentative map. Subject to change on a woman's whim. The east coast is still fuzzy. The Citabria gang have offered to lead me around that part of the country for a bit, and that sounds like a good plan to me.
Steve, I'm checking into the airports you mentioned.
Has anyone ever flown into the grass strip in Bayou La Batre, Alabama (5R7)?
Diana - That is one heck of a route!!!
Looks like real fun!
I'm thinking a book is in order. How about mounting a cam-corder to the glareshield and making it a movie.
Video diary would be awesome!
Funny you should mention that. I was thinking about writing something up about the trip. It will be fun to get pictures of the airports and the people and their airplanes along the way.
Hadn't really thought about it, but not a bad idea.
wow look away for a few days and look what happens. when you make it to Iowa you'll have to let me know. i see you are going to Marfa, TX. No grass there, just dirt! Take a glider ride from Burt while visiting Dave Taylor (I assume)
Never landed at Roy E. Ray (5R7) but have flown near it often (last weekend, in fact).
They have skydiving pretty much every weekend. The jumpers from there often participate in the local airshows/fly-ins.
The Mobile EAA chapter (416) is based there, too. They use to be fairly active, with a good turnout for area fly-ins, but I haven't been on the coast since Katrina so I don't know what their level of activity is lately.
Thanks for the information Steve. It sounds like a fun place to visit and is a definite stop for me now. I'll call first to see if they have any significant residual damage before I land there...hadn't thought about the possible Katrina damage.
Are you still planning on making up to Platte Valley? Like I mentioned on the Bellananc website... I live down in Colorado Springs, but I fly up that way rather often, and will likely be up there a fair amount in May. I learned to fly taildraggers up there in an L-16, and had a blast doing it. They also have a WWI plane museum which i have not had the satisfaction of seeing yet...
Let me know if your still planning on coming up this way.
Hi Jim. Welcome to the PoA forum!
Yes, that is definitely one of my stops and I hope to check out the museum there. Then I'll fly on to Erie and stay there for a few days or so. My son just moved to within a mile of the Erie airport, so KEIK is the perfect airport to park the Citabria at for a few days.
One of the gentleman from the Citabria forum will be having some work done on his Scout at the Erie airport and I hope to meet him and check out his Scout. If his Scout is flyable by then, he said he'd fly me into a short strip near the mountains that a Scout can get out of, but not a Citabria. I'm hoping to be able to experience that.
One airport that you can't leave out on your trip is the airport at St. Francis, KS (KSYF). It has three grass runways and one paved. It's only about a two-block walk into town from there. There is a campground adjacent to the airport with running water. They have active cropdusting going on there and host a famous annual Stearman fly-in. Stephen Coonts mentioned attending the fly-in in his book The Cannibal Queen.
Again, welcome to the forum Jim. BTW, there are several other pilots here from the Denver/Colorado Springs area.
I heard the Roy E. Ray jump pilot on the radio on Sunday, so I know they're open. Most of the damage to airports was further west Diamondhead near Bay St. Louis is open, but their fuel farm is gone.
If wx pushes you further north of the coast, Prentiss, MS, M43, had 100LL for $3.05 this week.
I would be one of them. Let me know when you're in the area Diana, I'd still love to meet you.
That's good news! I'm looking forward to visiting the place. Thanks for the info.
That's good to know. Not a bad price on fuel.
I hope we can finally get together this time! There is also another lady pilot out that way that I hope to meet. Her name is Marijke and she flies a Citabria. I think she is based out of Longmont.
Does anyone know if you can actually land at Pioneer Airport?? And how you get permission?
Here's what my fight planner says:
Just give Tom a call!
Call the Pioneer Airport Office 920-426-4867 for information.
They do local rides when the weather is good in their vintage aircraft so you'll have to coordinate with those operations.
Also, there are a large number of special events ongoing during the flying season at the Airventure Museum that often include concurrent activities on Pioneer Field.
I asked around once about flying in in a C210 and was told I'd have to get the airport manager's permission and possibly demonstrate my short field skills on the main runways at OSH before getting the ok. I doubt that would be an issue with a Citabria. The grass rwy iz 2200 x 80 ft.
You want some much missed acro time in the Citabria Mari
Jason, you raise a good point. I've been indecisive about bringing the parachutes. At 14 pounds apiece, I am thinking that I could pack more shoes instead of the parachute (I can't wait for Anthony to respond to this comment). Besides, I pack like a girl and the Citabria will be FULL of crap and I'd have to dump it all out on the tarmac first before I could go upside down.
Speaking of packing, I need to find a good small (one-man) tent for sleeping under the wing for those nights when I can't find a ride into town or sleep in the FBO. Any suggestions? I have tried taking the seat cushions out in the Citabria and experimented with ways to try to lay down in the Citabria to sleep in it all night, and it looks like sleeping upright is the only way it can be done. There is a placard for the cable on the back seat, so it won't fold down all the way. I plan to do some flying with different people on the trip, so I don't want to take the back seat completely out.
Diana the "North Face" has some great "Ultralight tents"
Wont add too much to your load and give you durable shelter.
Here is a simple one
Diana, my awesome AOPA Mentor! Wow! You are going to be pretty close in Iowa - it would be fun to come down to see you if I can steal away from work!!! I'll get my cell phone number to you and you can call to let me know when you'll be there!!! That is going to be one awesome adventure for you! And we'll all be excited to hear about it!
Hey Linda! It's nice to see you back here. I understand that you've been really busy lately.
Well, aren't you sweet! It's been a pleasure working with you. We need more enthusiastic and positive pilots like you in the aviation world.
Will do! If we can't connect in May, then I hope to fly up to visit you sometime this summer.
BTW, congratulations on passing your written!
Thanks Jason. It looks like they have several small, lightweight tents that would work.