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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Glad to see people standing against the hatred that Phelps spews at funerals.
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Bikers drown out funeral protesters[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Ryan Lenz[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Associated Press[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. — Wearing leather chaps and vests covered in military patches, a band of motorcyclists rolls from one soldier’s funeral to another in hopes their respectful cheers and revving engines will drown out the insults of protesters.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The motorcycle club members calling themselves Patriot Guard Riders are trying to shield mourners from cruel jeers by adherents of a tiny fundamentalist church who picket military funerals to reflect their belief that U.S. combat deaths are a sign God is punishing the United States for harboring homosexuals. Some protesters’ signs said, “Thank God for IEDs,” the improvised explosive devices, or homemade bombs, that kill many U.S. soldiers.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“The most important thing we can do is let families know that the nation cares,” said Don Woodrick, the biker group’s Kentucky captain. “When a total stranger gets on a motorcycle in the middle of winter and drives 300 miles to hold a flag, that makes a powerful statement.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Across the nation, Patriot Guard Riders number more than 5,000. They show up at soldiers’ funerals to chant patriotic slogans and wave red, white and blue flags in hopes of overshadowing backers of a Kansas clergyman named the Rev. Fred Phelps.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Phelps and members of his Westboro Baptist Church have caused such a fuss that at least 14 states are considering laws aimed at the funeral protests. During the 1990s, church members were known mostly for picketing funerals of AIDS victims, and they have long been tracked as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project in Montgomery, Alabama.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The project’s deputy director, Heidi Beirich, said other groups have tried to counter Phelps’ message, but none have been as organized as the Patriot Guard.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“I’m not sure anybody has gone to this length to stand in solidarity,” she said. “It’s nice that these veterans and their supporters are trying to do something. I can’t imagine anything worse, your loved one is killed in Iraq and you’ve got to deal with Fred Phelps.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]At a recent memorial service at Fort Campbell, church protesters and sang vulgar songs condemning homosexuals and soldiers. The Patriot Guard was also there, cheering to support mourning families across the street as community members came in a freezing rain to chant “U-S-A, U-S-A” alongside the bikers.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“This is just the right thing to do. This is something America didn’t do in the ’70s,” said Kurt Mayer, the Patriot Guard’s national spokesman, referring to the era when protests against the Vietnam war were common. “Whether we agree with why we’re over there, these soldiers are dying to protect our freedoms.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Shirley Phelps-Roper, a daughter of Fred Phelps and an attorney for the Topeka, Kansas-based church, said neither state laws nor the Patriot Guard can silence their message that God killed the soldiers because they fought for a country that embraces homosexuals.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“The scriptures are crystal clear that when God sets out to punish a nation, it is with the sword. An IED is just a broken-up sword,” Phelps-Roper said. “Since that is his weapon of choice, our forum of choice has got to be a dead soldier’s funeral.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The church, which is not affiliated with a larger denomination, is made up mostly of Phelps’ extended family. A small group of them appeared last month in West Virginia outside a memorial for the 12 men killed in the Sago Mine disaster. They held signs reading “Thank God for Dead Miners” and “Miners in Hell.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Kentucky, home to sprawling Fort Campbell, was among the first states to attempt to deal with Phelps legislatively. Its House and Senate have each passed bills that would limit people from protesting within 300 feet of a funeral or memorial service. The Senate version would also keep protesters from being within earshot of grieving friends and family members.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Indiana Senate has passed a bill intended to prohibit protests within 500 feet (150 meters) of funerals. The House is considering the measure.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The bills were written to protect families of soldiers such as Pvt. Jonathan R. Pfender, 22, of Evansville, Indiana, a soldier from Fort Campbell’s 101st Airborne Division who was killed in January by a roadside bomb in Beiji, Iraq.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Westboro church members protested at Pfender’s funeral, screaming profanities at mourners as they passed. Family members were shielded from the insults by the rumble of Patriot Guard motorcycles.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“We were glad that the Patriot Guard Riders were there,” said Jackie Pfender, the soldier’s stepmother. “This group of protesters wanted to put something negative on Jonathan’s funeral. In actuality, it became a positive thing because of the support we had.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Patriot Guard members only show up at funerals if invited by family. Richard Wilbur, a retired police detective, said his Indiana Patriot Guard group came to the Pfender funeral at the family’s request after protesters announced they planned to attend.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]“No one deserves this,” Wilbur said. “If I were burying my loved one and they were out there yelling anything close to what they yell to the families of these soldiers, I know my temperament. I probably would not handle it very well.”[/FONT]

The Patriot Guard Riders website is http://www.patriotguard.org/
 
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I heard about this!! Fantastic if you ask me.. of course they drown out both the protesters and the funeral but they make a great statement.
 
Thanks for posting that William. Regardless of an individuals political feelings regarding the Iraq war, that kind of disrespect towards those who have fallen in service to the greatest nation on the planet should not go unchallenged.
 
Frank Browne said:
Thanks for posting that William. Regardless of an individuals political feelings regarding the Iraq war, that kind of disrespect towards those who have fallen in service to the greatest nation on the planet should not go unchallenged.

Agreed. If I had a motorcycle, I'd gladly join them (Of course it'd be a sports bike, but hey, they knock out the low notes, I'll knock out the high notes. :D )
 
I completely agree.

In fact, I can't see any valid reason to protest at ANY funeral.

Phelps is gonna die someday. I wonder what his funeral will be like.
 
Darrell111 said:
Oh i bet its going to be a real mess!!! :goofy:

Personally, I think it'd be better if no one showed up. He thrives on all that attention now, why should anyone give it to him when he dies.
 
MSmith said:
Phelps is gonna die someday. I wonder what his funeral will be like.

I guarantee they don't think Freedom of Speech extends to anyone protesting at his funeral. Promise you if people show up, they'll be threatened with lawsuits. Lawsuit happy that family is.
 
ausrere said:
Personally, I think it'd be better if no one showed up. He thrives on all that attention now, why should anyone give it to him when he dies.

Well Lisa normally I'd agree with you. For example if Skin Heads or Neo Nazis decide to march in a given town. They are looking for publicity. A good argument to be made is that by confronting them you are giving them the publicity they seek. ( nothing more embarassing than a quite parade)

In this case however, this group is purportedly creating a vulgar distraction at the Funeral of a person who has served our country and who, more important that that is the father, son, brother, sister etc. of an agreived family. This is probably the saddest moment of their lives. IMHO the behavior of this church defiles thier memory. The bikers while perhaps give this fella some attention, more importantly helps to protect the memory of the deceased and protects the grieving family. The fact is if they didn't show up this guys antics could really hurt the loved ones. JMO
 
AdamZ said:
Well Lisa normally I'd agree with you.

Oh, I agree that the bikers are doing a great service, and I hope they continue. I've had the displeasure of meeting Mr. Phelps in person. Not a nice man. What I meant was I hope no one shows up at HIS funeral.. I don't think anyone should take that much time out of their day to acknowledge the man once he's gone to meet his maker. Except maybe to paint the cemetary gates in rainbow colors as a passing tribute to him or something :)
 
AdamZ said:
Well Lisa normally I'd agree with you. For example if Skin Heads or Neo Nazis decide to march in a given town. They are looking for publicity. A good argument to be made is that by confronting them you are giving them the publicity they seek. ( nothing more embarassing than a quite parade)

In this case however, this group is purportedly creating a vulgar distraction at the Funeral of a person who has served our country and who, more important that that is the father, son, brother, sister etc. of an agreived family. This is probably the saddest moment of their lives. IMHO the behavior of this church defiles thier memory. The bikers while perhaps give this fella some attention, more importantly helps to protect the memory of the deceased and protects the grieving family. The fact is if they didn't show up this guys antics could really hurt the loved ones. JMO

These f-wads showed up at the funeral of a Green Beret here in Boston. Some folks showed up to drown them out, but the media gave these a-hats so much attention I could puke.

What really angers me is the fact their words and actions make me want to break the law.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
astanley said:
These f-wads showed up at the funeral of a Green Beret here in Boston. Some folks showed up to drown them out, but the media gave these a-hats so much attention I could puke.

What really angers me is the fact their words and actions make me want to break the law.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Just remember this. When they pass away, they will soon be forgotten. Soldiers will always be remembered in the hearts of the people of this nation.
 
I went by the gate while the protesters were at Ft. Campbell. I counted 5 of Phelps hate group and there must have been 300 Pro-Military/ Pro Gay protesting Phelps group.
 
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