George McGovern Died

I was the commander on an infantry company in Vietnam during his run for pres. I had to respond to three Congressional investigations initiated by him. Very short fuse stuff. The only Congressionals to which I had to respond. That didn't endear him to me and they didn't have much merit.
Didn't know his background. Thanks for posting that.

Well, after reading that, I guess his presidential run was over when I had to respond to those investigations, but still had to investigate and respond to three inquiries.

Best,

Dave
 
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Dave,

Can you elaborate on the inquiries? You need to write a book about your Nam, (maybe Laos and Cambodia too??) experiences.
 
The Dove and hawk era, doesn't return many pleasant memories.
 
When I hear anything about George McGovern, all I can think of is:

Charlie Daniels - Uneasy Rider said:
"I said "Would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearing Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGovern for President."
 
Dave,

Can you elaborate on the inquiries? You need to write a book about your Nam, (maybe Laos and Cambodia too??) experiences.

When a Congressional inquiry came down, we had IIRC three days to get something back to HQ. Maybe a few more to get the formal write up done. While it was a combat environment, I had a base defense company; so even though we were in the field at a fire base, we had reasonable facilities and commo. Two of the inquiries were for one fella. I think his Dad didn't want him there and know McGovern (I seem to recall him telling me that, but it was a long time ago). Anyway, on one fella, he had brothers in country at the same time and the inquiry asked why XXX number of brothers were deployed in combat units at the same time, inferring some should not be. I interviewed the fella in question who was in our base defense platoon. He wanted to serve in combat. Long story short, I wrote that up and he signed a statement saying he wanted to be there. Doesn't sound like much, but we had a lot going on and this moved to the top of the list. Thought it pretty strange the person sending the inquiry didn't know that.
Second guy had two inquiries and actually apologized for the first. Don't remember exactly what it was. The second one I do recall. He complained he was in a combat unit and didn't have a weapon. Well, he was a cook. We had more accidents with weapons than those hurt by hostile fire, so, for other than line folks, weapons were kept in a arms room and drawn when folks went out to man defensive positions or on patrol. If we were attacked, the arms room was opened so anyone could get a weapon. I recall I was a bit put out and called him in. He explained he really felt he should have an assigned weapon; so, I explained all that would be involved and he said he understood and still wanted one. I assigned him an M-60 machine gun and explained I or one of my NCOs would be inspecting it every day. If not properly assembled and cleaned, he would have to work on it until done. My report to the inquiry was he had been assigned a weapon and I described some of the circumstances.
At first he really liked it. We allowed him to go to the range, shoot and get instruction. But he didn't have a lot of free time with all his other duties. Several times, his weapon didn't pass inspection and after about ten days, he let us know he was fine with our normal policy; he gave up having the M-60 machine gun assigned to him.

Just as an observation, we had a lot of folks that didn't do well in the rear that really shined when assigned to actual combat duties (myself included). Several folks just didn't feel a sense of purpose in support roles and really applied themselves in a combat role.

As far as weapon assignment, imagine having everyone in your high school class walk around with an automatic weapon and how many accidents there would be. That's why we controlled weapons when in rear area or base defense positions. Grenades were also issued and taken back when troops went out and returned toward the end of the war.

Best,

Dave
 
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Back in the day when assigned to Air Force Systems Command, I had to respond to quite a few Congressionals mostly of the type "Why hasn't my constituent's brilliant idea for a faster than light airplane or antigravity machine been funded?" It used to really irritate me but I never realized guys in Nam had to respond to the system as well. No comparison since all it did to me was take up desk time, not base defense. :yikes:

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A great beginning -- a member of the greatest generation -- and flyer, too.

But . . .
 
Where did you get that? I have one of those at home somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up. The MacV part wasn't until later in the war. Originally Studies and Observation group. Later Special Operations Group. My old CO from there is still around. Great fella.

Best,

Dave
 
Back in the day when assigned to Air Force Systems Command, I had to respond to quite a few Congressionals mostly of the type "Why hasn't my constituent's brilliant idea for a faster than light airplane or antigravity machine been funded?" It used to really irritate me but I never realized guys in Nam had to respond to the system as well. No comparison since all it did to me was take up desk time, not base defense. :yikes:

Cheers

They cut us some slack if actually deployed on field operations, but generally wanted at least an oral reply in three days. Written report three or four days later. May have been worse near the end of the war which is when I served my second tour and was an infantry company commander for part of that. U.S. units were being deactivated and our operations were pulled into smaller areas until the colors were sent home. Of course, many of us were still there, but the ground infantry units were pulled out. I flew the last three or four months after the Cav was deactivated until the cease fire. Former Air Cav unit became part of MacV. Bad part was our blue platoon (infantry reaction force) went away. If shot down or one made an emergency landing in bad guy territory, no U.S. guys to come and get you. Good part was the bad guys were pretty much waiting for us to leave and didn't attack Americans anywhere in strength that last few months of the war.


Best,

Dave
 
Where did you get that? I have one of those at home somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up. The MacV part wasn't until later in the war. Originally Studies and Observation group. Later Special Operations Group. My old CO from there is still around. Great fella.

Best,

Dave

Just a pic off the net, but if you remember, several years ago you recommended I read a few books, and I did. Forget the authors name now, but the books are around here somewhere. Excellent reading, btw, and incredible bravery on their part and your part.
 
Just a pic off the net, but if you remember, several years ago you recommended I read a few books, and I did. Forget the authors name now, but the books are around here somewhere. Excellent reading, btw, and incredible bravery on their part and your part.

All hush hush stuff for many years; then, some articles began coming out followed by books. Sure sign one is getting old (g). Ops like this have gone on since the beginning of time. Recon behind enemy lines is nothing new. How, when and where is important when being conducted. What was interesting was how the commander of forces wouldn't believe what recon teams were reporting early on. They couldn't believe what was coming down what was called the Ho Chi Mien Trail. It took pics and taking prisoners to finally convince folks what was actually going on. In spite of B-52 strikes, planting of active listening devices followed by bombings, and many types of interdiction, the NVA moved vast quantities of men and supplies from the north to the south in Laos and Cambodia.

I only ran one mission over the fence (outside Vietnam) and was wounded on that one. We were in their rear area and carried nothing with U.S. markings except dog tags. Many did much more than me and many didn't come home when I did.

Best,

Dave
 
I read the Swedish K was very popular on missions in Laos, and Cambodia. Oh yeah, John Plaster was the author you recommended Dave.

Sorry, I am derailing the McGovern thread. A hero in his own right.
 
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I read the Swedish K was very popular on missions in Laos, and Cambodia. Oh yeah, John Plaster was the author you recommended Dave.

Sorry, I am derailing the McGovern thread. A hero in his own right.

It's all good. IMHO.
 
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