Garmin Pilot upgrade

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  1. Grum.Man

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  3. Hang 4

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    It's got some major improvements. Looking forward to flying with it as a lot of the in-air functionality is improved.
     
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    yeah I'm playing around with it now (got the day off and of course it's gonna freakin snow....in charlotte!). now you're able to load departure and approach procedures, it's pretty cool. I do notice in planning mode, when you load an approach it does some funky things that I have to figure out. it'll move the arrival airport to an enroute waypoint, have you going directly to the airport, then it swings you around back to your transition and loads the full approach including missed. it's odd looking, but if you just remove the airport as the enroute waypoint, it looks more normal, painting the line directly to your transition waypoint.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder if the free trial lets you play with all these features.
     
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    Only thing I don’t know is if u need the IFR add on which I don’t think u can get a free trial of. I’m not sure....
     
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    How much is it now with the IFR add on?
     
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    mmmm, I don't remember, like a hundid fo'ty or so.
     
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    here's kinda what it looks like:

    load a standard point A to point B flight plan, it loads the origin and destination airports:

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    if you add an approach, it moves the destination airport to 'enroute':

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    and looks pretty funky on the map:

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    if you zoom in to the airport, you can see it has this funky turn going back to your selected transition:

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    but if you just remove the destination airport as an enroute waypoint:

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    it looks much more normal (kooke transition):

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    also, I think this may just be because I'm in planning mode, several options aren't available in planning mode:

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    and finally, a screenshot of the visual representations of the departure procedures:

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    That's pretty cool.
     
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    @eman1200 - I think the reason for the airport being selected as the waypoint is that you would typically be directed to the airport by ATC enroute. Once you get close, then you would get the approach/transition. Notice that you can't activate the approach or enable VTF in planning mode. Those become active once in flight.
     
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    How funny is it that Android users pay the same amount as the apple fan boyz but rarely get these new features until months later, if at all.
     
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    Yep, makes sense.
     
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    What are you talking about? Until literally today everyone has been playing catch up to FF since it's inception.
     
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    waaahhh.
     
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    GP has had a few features before FF, and software out on tablet PCs years before FF had features that none of the tablet systems have yet today.

    The statement really isn’t true.

    Examples might include (off the top of my head), pilot flight time logging and concierge for GP. For the old school stuff, a plan view that depicts weather and cloud heights bottom and top from METARs along the route.

    But there’s plenty more things FF was not first out with.
     
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    Haha... How mature. Apparently your profile pic is a self-portrait...
     
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    wwaaaahhhh.
     
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    Nah. He’s a funny guy. He just told a bad joke on the Internet.

    Someone should definitely report him to a FSDO. LOL.
     
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    ...or at the very least, "Whack his pee-pee!"

    :D

    (Bonus points getting the arcane reference)
     
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    I mean, I did mention it was my day off....
     
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    :goofy:

    Not the reference I was thinking of but it did make me literally LOL...
     
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    $75 for IFR addon, so $150 all in. If you have Garmin GPS, you can get database package that includes GP premium upgrade (IFR add on).

    The big (only?) missing piece is weather planning, graphical and integrated with your flight plan.
     
  25. smv

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    FWIW, the Android version already does SIDs and STARs but will not load an IAP. It will put the IAP on the map, but not into the flight plan.

    Screenshot_20200220-143207_Pilot.jpg
     
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    I should probably start my own thread but here goes nuttin....

    Garmin pilot notes all the minor intersections on an airway. Makes them flightplan legs which add no value. Any settings buried somewhere to turn that off?
     
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    My version hasn't updated yet. I'm still running version 9.7.4. Is there any way to force the update?
     
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    Go to the app store reload it.
     
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    Are you seeing them in the actual flightplan that gets filed or in the NavLog?
     
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    Not sure, but I believe it's mimicking how the GTN series works. It will show up as just the airway, but if you tap on it, it will show all the intersections. I don't think there is a way to suppress it .

    Also in the flight plan page, there is an up/down arrow on the airway. Tap it and will hide the intersections and just show the airway
     
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    There is but hell if I remember where it’s buried right now. Something about only showing entry and exit waypoints.
     
  32. smv

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    Top right corner menu of the "Trip Planning" page....

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    THANK YOU!!!!
     
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    Make sure IOS is updated, I believe it requires 13
     
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    Version what???

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  37. eman1200

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    interesting, moderately cool new feature....

    I rubber banded to a new waypoint and GP creates a nice turn for me:

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    You still use FAA charts as oppose to their dynamic charts (a big plus in my mind)?
     
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    I use all of the charts, thanks for asking.
     
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    Flew with it this weekend, ran a couple approaches and it operates just like the box in your panel. Load the approach, activate it, and you're good to go. Countdown timers for turns in the approach (Rt Turn 270 in 8 Sec), split screen the flight plan with approach altitude restrictions listed at each way point and throw the plate on the moving map, and you have more information than one could ever need. If you lost your primary navigator for whatever reason...I would not hesitate to use it in an emergency for lateral guidance to help step down through an approach. Outstanding upgrade!
     
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