GA in Sweden??

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My wife & I are planning a trip to Sweden and I wondered what the GA picture looks like? Is it worth seeing about a sight seeing flight or anything of the sort?

John
 
I'm a Swede and learned to fly there.

It's pretty vibrant. Not compared to America, but for European standards. Since gas is so expensive, it's mostly single engine stuff, experimentals and LSA's. Not much piston twin engine action. Up north there's quite the bit of utility, think of Canada/Alaska flying, but to a lesser degree.

Stockholm is beautiful capital, but unfortunately where I learned to fly at Bromma (essb) the politicians have run amok and driven GA away with insane handling fees etc, so now the situation for GA in the Stockholm region is pretty dismal. They've also managed to close down two beautiful GA airfields around town (politicians are all the same), so now the closest true GA airfield is about 100km away.

There's one spot left in the capital and the's the seaplane base at Täby Sjöflygklubb. Could be an option if you're going for the capital. The sea freezes over by Nov-Dec, so after that no more seaplane action until spring.
 
Going well before ice season.

Seaplane might be just the ticket. Hmm. I'll look that up.

Thanks!
John
 
Hejsan stratobee,
(jag är finsk så jag pratar lite svenska :))

ESSB is doable as long as you don't need fuel. around 35EUR/landing, and around 30EUR/day for parking. If you need AVGAS, you'll be raped.

As a random visitor to Sweden, I would say it isn't as busy as the UK, but the "culture" is similar. Smaller strips outside big cities, but nothing near the major "tourist" destinations.

stratobee might disagree with me here, but I don't think there is much to see in southern Sweden when flying. There are many pretty places up north, but the GA, especially rental GA, possibilities are non-existent.
Stockholm is a very pretty city, but it is much better when explored on foot.

If you only have a FAA certificate, you can use it without validation in most European countries until 8th April 2015. After that, FAA cert is rendered pretty much useless within EASA territory. I would print the references from EASA though, because many places do not know the regulations with ICAO PPL's. In southern Sweden language barrier won't be an issue, up north it might.
 
mtuomi said:
Hejsan stratobee,
(jag är finsk så jag pratar lite svenska :))

ESSB is doable as long as you don't need fuel. around 35EUR/landing, and around 30EUR/day for parking. If you need AVGAS, you'll be raped.


stratobee might disagree with me here, but I don't think there is much to see in southern Sweden when flying. There are many pretty places up north, but the GA, especially rental GA, possibilities are non-existent.
Stockholm is a very pretty city, but it is much better when explored on foot.
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Hej din gamla finne!

I would agree, flying it's mainly a lot of forests and a lot of lakes down south. Stockholm best explored by foot. It's a gorgeous city. They call it the Venice of the North for a reason.
 
stratobee said:
Hej din gamla finne!

I would agree, flying it's mainly a lot of forests and a lot of lakes down south. Stockholm best explored by foot. It's a gorgeous city. They call it the Venice of the North for a reason.
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We have been given a foot tour itinerary for Stockholm from a former tour guide. And we plan to use it. We're also interested in biking and sea kayaking. The flying would be a possible side diversion for me.

Any suggestions on the biking/sea kayaking? Tour guides, etc?
 
How long are you staying in Sweden/Stockholm?
Are you visiting any other places nearby or just staying in Stockholm?
 
mtuomi said:
How long are you staying in Sweden/Stockholm?
Are you visiting any other places nearby or just staying in Stockholm?
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Visiting Gothenburg, Copenhagen (not in Sweden, I know), kingdom of Crystal and Stockholm. We're there for 16 days, not counting arrival and departure days.

And we'll have a car.

John
 
Unsure how widely you have travelled around Europe, but if you haven't been to northern Germany, try to fit Tallinn (it's in Estonia, but it is very similar in style to many cities in northern Germany)to your schedule. Beautiful (very)old town, easily accessible from Stockholm by a boat or plane.

Avoid the drive from Gothenburg to Stockholm, it is the most boring 6 hours of your life.
Copenhagen to Gothenburg isn't anything special either, apart from the bridge to Malmö.
 
Ooh, jealous !

I remember back in the 80s a couple of members from our club travelled up to the nordkapp and back with a 2 seat touring motorglider. I dont know what airports they used, I believe they had set up most of their trip with various aeroclubs around the country for local support.
 
mtuomi said:
Unsure how widely you have travelled around Europe, but if you haven't been to northern Germany, try to fit Tallinn (it's in Estonia, but it is very similar in style to many cities in northern Germany)to your schedule. Beautiful (very)old town, easily accessible from Stockholm by a boat or plane.

Avoid the drive from Gothenburg to Stockholm, it is the most boring 6 hours of your life.
Copenhagen to Gothenburg isn't anything special either, apart from the bridge to Malmö.
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Tallinn is very touristy. The girls are pretty though. :goofy:
 
mtuomi said:
try to fit Tallinn (it's in Estonia, but it is very similar in style to many cities in northern Germany)to your schedule. Beautiful (very)old town, easily accessible from Stockholm by a boat or plane.
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Happy to help in regards to Tallinn and Estonia, be it in regards of GA flying or just visiting.
 
Tallinn airport charges vary, no-one knows what they are, depends on the amount of nickel/dime you'll get. It will be atleast 100EUR. For C172, 3 people, 2 nights, I've paid 90EUR. And I've paid C172/4 people/8 hours, 120EUR.
Anything in between.

Tallinn is a very pretty city, and it is what an average American would consider "Europe". Stockholm is as pretty if not prettier, but not as "European" if this is your first European adventure.

If you end up in Tallinn, Book a table in Rataskaevu16, or Tchaikovsky.
Rataskaevu16 is a fantastic restaurant, but not very refined. Still a very nice dinner. Tchaikovsky is VERY refined (very expensive too), but probably the best fine dining in Estonia.
 
mtuomi said:
Tallinn is a very pretty city, and it is what an average American would consider "Europe". Stockholm is as pretty if not prettier, but not as "European" if this is your first European adventure.
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Well I am certainly not your average American. I am in fact a very unique and wonderfully gifted individual. Highly cultured too. So perhaps my opinion doesn't count since I am not an ugly american commoner as described by our Finnish friend above... but I would advise to skip Tallinn. Touristy. Some nice night clubs and really pretty girls though. Nice bars and a couple of nice restaurants. Otherwise? Not really a cultured destination.
 
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