full size bicycle into piper archer

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    There are a bunch of forums addressing this online but no real solutions, ideas, pictures.

    the ultimate goal is to put a single, Large frame mountain bike with 29" tires into a piper archer ii. Obviously, removing both tires is a must, and I have a purpose built tarp cover thing for the greasy gear system. I'm going to attempt to put my road bike in today and if it seems to go in with ease I will try the mountain bike. I'm thinking the frame is roughly the size of a torso and head so I should be able to put the seat and backrest of the front set down while I slide it into the backseat but we'll see...

    Anybody else have experience with this?
     
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    I took the back seat out of my Cardinal to carry my full size bike. Same tarp idea though.
     
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    It works. I have to take both wheels off, and jockey the frame through the door and put it in the back seat. It's really not that big of a deal.

    It only takes five minutes. Some guys spend an hour flight planning and another half hour preflighting. I just sniff the gas, kick the tires and go so I'm still ahead LOL OGM ROLF LOL
     
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    I bought one of those as well. It is not a bad bike for tooling around. It was a tight fit in the back of a 172 but it works.
     
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    Other Guy's Mistakes?

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    Sure it'll fit, just need a special tool:

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    And the reassembly tool:
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    So I guess a roof rack is out of the question..???
     
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    There ya go.... problem solved..!!!!
     
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    Lol, I'm not taking a hacksaw to my bike and hoping the coupler works as advertised. I'd also be wary of kinking brake lines/derailleur cables.
     
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    So buy a crappy bike for cheap then hack that. You only have to ride it when you fly somewhere. These foldable bikes can’t be that amazing to ride anyway.


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    Lol, the Columba bike linked above is $200 and isn't likely to be any worse than a $150 Wallyworld bike in terms of being "amazing to ride". Hell, the local CL has used 20" foldables/stowabikes for $100. Besides, you can't even buy those couplers from S&S unless you're a frame-builder/bike shop. Even if you had an old bike laying around, and a bike shop willing to do it, it sounds like an expensive proposition.
     
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    A 29'er MTB should be no problem (mine isn't, but the Diamond is pretty cavernous and the access is impressive). There's not much left after you take the wheels and pedals off. I remove the bars and wire tie them to the fork. Take the seat off, or drop it all of the way down.

    in 2018 Raleigh is coming out with a steel-frame "gravel" bike with couplers built in (Tamland Breakaway). For roadies this should be a nice option.
     
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    The one place I found listing a price for the S&S coupler conversion was $595 for just installing the couplers. $1150 if you want them to do useful things like make it so your cables disconnect too. It's really if you want to keep your existing good bike. My folding bike was over $1000, but that was to get all the bells+whistles including racks, lights and 24 speeds.
     
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    I tried a Montague. Not a bad ride. Not at all.
     
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    24 speeds?! Good lord, that sounds like a lot of redundant gear ratios!


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    It's a standard MTB setup. Triple crankset, eight speed rear. No, you don't cycle through all 24 gears. My road bike has a double crankset and a ten speed rear, making it a 20 speed, but in reality, I ride it like an 11 speed, only shifting the front ring down when I run out of gears in the back.
     
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    Oh, I know. It's just funny how having a 24- or 27-speed bike used to be the "top of the line", and now a 1x11 or 2x9/10 is increasingly popular on the XC/mountain bikes. I like seeing the charts that show the gear ratios between different chainrings to see what gear ratios are identical. With a 2x10 or 3x8 crankset, it usually ends up being 2-3 extra high gears at the 3-4 gears at the low end with the rest being pretty much identical in between. This chart illustrates it pretty well:

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    That sounds about right, the large ring in front just feels more efficient, but sometimes it doesn't get the job done .
     
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    Well actually my folder is single crankset, 8 speed cassette, 3 speed hub and 20 inch wheels. According to what I've seen that puts the gear inch range much lower than that chart but, yes, still with a significant overlap between the 3 speeds. Apparently the rear hub is 75% 100% 133%
     
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    Okay finally made it out to the airport with the road bike. I was able to get it in the plane, folding the seats down, fairly easy. Only had to remove the front wheel. I’d imagine with a 29 inch mountain bike I would need to remove both wheels. But can be done! Probably will add a few towels, especially with a mountain bike and after a ride. This one is clean now..

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    Link to that drivetrain cover?
     
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    It’s called a white lightning chain Johnny. It’s on amazon for $16. Guy I bought the bike from included it and I never thought I would have a use for it. Perfect for this purpose!
     
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    Thanks!

    Looks good. Given the wider bars on the mountain bike, I would plan on pulling them off of the stem (leaving cables and hoses attached).
     
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    Love those Gatorskins. The only tire that will even halfway hold up around here. Says a guy that just got two flats in two days on his set this week.
     
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    Once the wheel is off I should be able to turn the bars parallel to the frame making it more of a length thing which isn’t a problem in the archer. I’m not even going to try to fit the 29 inch tire on attached to the bike, not because I don’t think I could do it but because it would rub all over the interior and the interior is fairly new. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to escape for a day in Tahoe this upcoming week before the snow starts. Will post MTB pictures in the plane if I do!

    I put them on right before the weather got good in the spring (go back to MTB) Way better than what I had before. Front tire still has excess rubber on the seam lol.
     
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    All right. Who's going to organize the Norcal MTB/RB fly out? I just ordered one of each of Western Spirits bikes from this season (https://westernspirit.com/bike_sales.php)

    @Sac Arrow -- I can finally get you your Jeremiah Weed...in a Camelbak or bike bottle. Your choice! :)
     
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    Get a moving blanket. Better protection from forks and pedals.
     
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    A bike ride fly out/in would be pretty cool!
     
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    I bought a folding bicycle to get away from you airport/airplane people.
     
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